Guestbook Entries

7/4/10
d.m.lewiss1955@att.net
My first time here. Not enough information to enable a just opinion. David Lewis

6/24/10
rdmebutcher@hotmail.com
I would like more info on mentors for dads with teenagers,ages 14-18.thank you.

4/25/10
bisackyr@yahoo.com
need help :ex wont let me see15 yr old daughty.see never there when go to pick up . i stopped paying child support ,because of injury and wait on ssa.what do i do ??

4/4/10
gabrielsoto2350@yahoo.com
you guys dont do shit for men like us FOL is a bunch of bull you hav,nt answered anytrhing I wrote thanks but no thanks

8/24/09
iluvmario112506@yahoo.com
Hi, I need some answers, so if anyone has answers just e-mail me plz.

8/24/09
iluvmario112506@yahoo.com
Hi, My husband pays child support for 4 kids. 1 of them might not be his according to the mother, How can we get a free paternity test? With what he makes we cannot afford to pay anything. Also we have 1 child of our own, he is now 3 yrs old but attorney general office doesn't know anything about me or our son, If my husband adds our son will the child support payments go down....????

8/12/09
cheadawn@gmail.com
can someone out there help me and my brother, my brother "D" moved left his wife on a saturday, due to finding out that she had done some really bad things, recently cheated, stole from a local store while her 2 year old son was in the cart, got black listed from her family doctor for trying to get percription pills but failed to passe a urine test found drugs not perscribed to her in her system. well 2 days after my brother left he called wanting to see his son, she would say odd things like only if you give me your car keys so you can take our son, also he received a odd phone call from a hotel near an airport so he called number back, well she jumped on a greyhound bus to floridia but half way down there she got off bus and took a plane the rest of the way. then sent threatening messages to my brother stating you will never find us and if you do you can have your son and cussed like a sailor, she never had permission to take him to florida which she is supposedly at her dads and fed him a bunch of lies saying she has full custody of her son and has papers to prove it well we went to court and they have nothing stating she has full custody, we figure she typed them herself to make it look like she is telling the truth so her dad believes her. my brother has called the welfare on her with the evidence of the crazy stuff she has done in last moonth, the stealing, doctor etc. and went to police, sheriff fbi you name it they said they can't help because they are still married even though my brother never gave her permission to leave with their son or even knew she was going to florida he was never notified. sorry to go on and on and i realize i am not a father but to all you fathers out there please i am trying to help my brother and he is a really good father and is so heart broken she fled with their son we live in indiana also he did file for divorce as soon as he knew for sure she was in florida but the sheriff served papers to her sister and sent papers to her father in florida and both were returned stating she don't live there but we know she is there because she called my brother begging for him to give her more time to get back to indiana because court papers stated she had 20 days to get back to indiana so we know she has been told by her sister what they say and we have her recorded begging for more time, we need help my brother just graduated from IU with a masters degree but hasn't been able to find a job because of the economy we come from a town that has 6,000 if that and no jobs, he graduated in may from IU in computer animation but indiana really don't have those type of careers, and my brother is devistated about his son missing, can anyone out there help him please reply and help us. we miss my nephew so much and he is only 2 1/2 years old.

5/17/09
tomdandy67@bellsouth.net
I am a new member.

5/16/09
k.carey@earthlink.net
Child Support Recovery needs to make some serious changes on there system. They need to have some solid proof on who the fathers are and not just because the mother says who the father is.

3/24/09
muguman2009@yahoo.com
mister mugu i dey here oh please keet it of nice to if you pay

1/26/09
evilaro@nyc.rr.com
This website is just what I was looking For I feel fathers need just as mush support as mothers. Thank You for doing this I will get as much as I give and I will give what ever I have to give Thanks.

1/9/09
kudostechnet4@gmail.com
Alcoholism a lot of the time brings about this illusion that nothing is insufficient in the life of the one affected by it. But the fact that they don’t notice it does not mean the situation is not utterly incorrect. The people in the addicted persons’ environment should do something. They have devised intervention to make it less intricate for those people. It is suitable to have a lot of individual that know the addict doing the intervention. ------------- s.k http://www.drug-intervention.com/minnesota-drug-intervention.html

12/31/08
kurtsstuff@hotmail.com
My ex's husband has adopted my son unbeknownst to me. I have in the meantime been paying child support all along. I am being billed a new amount every month along with my arrears. I have been paying the current month amount along with extra to try and catch up with my back due support. I'm pretty sure they did this quite sometime ago but apparently the child support services are not aware of it. What should or can I do??

12/1/08
ajmanderson@aol.com
I would like to start a program for non custodial fathers who have been ordered to pay child support and can not afford to pay the judgements. This program would address the issues these fathers face and develop solutions that work.

11/28/08
alburn71@mchsi.com
My husband pays childsupport but we have had his son for over 3 months. What can we do to get this dropped until she takes her son back?

11/11/08
erk42084@yahoo.com
how do i chat

11/11/08
drshamley@telkomsa.net
great idea. i would like to start this movement in south africa,it would would a great way to deal with hiv,aids from a value system point of view encouraging great family role models something lacking in this society. i would like some thoughts from your side. regards dr noel shamley md

11/4/08
hroday2@gmail.com
Hi, I like your guestbook would love to visit again. Keep up the good work. ================================== Drug Rehab

7/23/08
papababy4@yahoo.com
My name is Patrick Fletcher. I am supposedly the son of one Mr.Roland Martins Fletcher. My father came to Nigeria where he worked for eldar Dempster shipping line, one of the first in west Africa. As a result of so much presure from his family in UK especialy through his bethrotted child hood girl friend, my father disppeared at the time i was born. He went back to England and i believe married that woman and raised Children with her. I have documented evidence of his death of birth and equally his father's marriage certificate all recovered from the UK records office through my own daugther who is presently there in UK.I have reliable information that my father eventually died in the year 1966. So far i have not been able to reach out to any body with regards to him. My father had two sons and two daugthers. I am the last child. I have been in Nigeria but one thing that will please me so much will be for me to visit my fathers country and his county to see if i can reach out with any body that is connected with him.I can give more details if required because i need help. Patrick Fletcher.

6/24/08
rkt483@aol.com
I sure hope I can find some helpful information here.

6/19/08
jhalley@co.clarke.ga.us
Advise needed...I've been divorced 3 yrs, have joint custody, we pay same amount into a joint account. I pay medical and she pays dental which is a fraction of the medical. She make 78% more money than me but refuses to agree to a percent of our gross salary to go into the account. Do I have a case to fight. What is the right thing to do and how do I go about it?

4/9/08
suzenright@aol.com
Don't blame all mothers. My X husband is like a lot of mean folks out here planing head games with me and our sons.

2/10/08
VICKYBARTZ@YAHOO.COM
WOMAN THAT HAVE CUSTODY OF CHILDREN AND THEY DO NOT LET THE DAD SEE THEM AND NOT ENCOURAGE THEIR CHILDREN TO SEE THEIR FATHERS SHOULD LOSE THEIR CUSTODY OF THEIR CHILDREN ESPECIALLY THISE WHO SUPPOSELY CHANGE THIE CHILDS LAST WITHOUT THE FATHERS PERMISSION ESPECIALLY WHEN PATERNITY WAS ADJUDICATED. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEM SELVES. THE FATHERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SEE THEIR CHILDREN NO MATTER WHAT THE OTHER PARENT SAYS. IT MAKES ME SICK THAT THEIR ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE SELFISH AND THEY WONT GROW-UP. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF THESE SO CALLES PARENTS THAT KEEP THE KIDS AWAY FROM THE FATHERS DIDNT HAVE A FATHER FIGURE IN THEIR LIVES SO THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO GROW TO BE JUST LIKE THEM.

2/1/08
waterangel34@hotmail.com
I need some advise if possible my two children one 13 and one 9 dont want to go to there fathers anymore due to having strangers living with him at the moment there is a lady with 4 kids there and another man has just left my son has to sleep with his sister and a 12 year old girl the house is dirty and all the people having family probs with police being there kids are scared and they get there belongings brocken or stolen there dad smokes drugs and on medication I dont know what to do theres been 7 different people in last few months one stole there clothes toys and now a women with 4 kids on medication and police keeping her husband away and my children getting afraid and upset they begging me not to send them Im happely married they are in a private school and they have a clean stabble enviroment here Im scared for dealing with drugs and all these unstable people staying hope you can help thought I ask another father on there view. Kind regards Mel

1/5/08
tonevann3746@yahoo.com
iam a 42 yr old male we 6 kids. three by one wife and 1 by a girldfriend after the wife, and 2 by an ex after her, this is years ago. and ive always suported all of them, now child suport takes all my money, and i dont owe any childsuport and i have proof of that they say its not coming to them and i owe over 100,000 back rarers, i live in new york city and i need a lawyer, i have my 12 yr old son and iam homless now because child suport took everything from if you know a lawyer plse call me at 203-843-5117

11/25/07
howard.neil@hotmail.com
can anyone tell me if there is sucessful litigation freeing the accused father after a DNA test proves that his father is the father of the child in question. Also has there been successful civil damages paid to the accused father from the proven father(his natural father) or the mother of the child who falsely accused the natural son not the natural father. Lastly, are there any lawyers willing to tackle such cases.

10/1/07
lovegloria@bellsouth.net
x wife is very abrusive with my daugther court gave her custody for the second time in alabama

9/8/07
EDCHAMPAGNE@YAHOO.COM
MEN MUST ORGANIZE AND TARGET JUDGES,LAWYERS AND LAWMAKERS

4/29/07
skullwolf3000@yahoo.com
i am new to this site. i am going through hell with north carolina dept of social services. my ex girlfriend gave birth to my daughter and abandoned her.now i'm fighting for custody.the judge is only listening to social service and my lawyer is one of those court appointed jobs. they are useing my past and my new wifes againist us. i looked up some of my states laws and found out that in north carolina there are several laws my lawyer is not useing to help me. please someone email me with something or advice i can use. my other email address is chward2007@aol.com thank you for this site.

4/26/07
cvasquez@ptd.net
Great Page to have, but will there ever be JUSTICE for us with ex wives, especially greedy ones?

2/24/07
yolfrnnd@aol.com
I have recently divorced and I need help from other fathers regarding children visition rights and child support. Please command.

1/31/07
schwab_chuck@yahoo.com
need leagal help.

1/19/07
nanjjames@yahoo.com
great to see a sight for fathers

12/19/06
love@family.com
testing the new guestbook. hope you enjoy the site.

11/29/06
gerald_mcmillanjr@yahoo.com
i need legal advice

11/27/06
previa25@bellsouth.net
fathers have rights to and this is coming from a mother of a son who wants custody (full custody of his 12 year old daughter who is physically abused by her mother and it has been proven throught child protective services.

11/7/06
lynnette.wilson1@btinternet.com
fathers for justice where is mothers for justice

9/29/06
bobbyhazen1@aol.com
I am a retired Union Iron Worker on Social Security Disbility due to an Industrial Accident that left me totally disabled. Admittedly I had gotten behind in my child support payments for my daughter who is now 20 and a full-time student in the University Of Minnesota. I paid in full all the child Support payments. I emphasized the need to pay the support up through the time that she would come of age, that would close out my account. I paid a total of $37,000 dollars at that time and included her on my Social Security Disability Claim and subsequent Award. In the interim the account showed a short fall of $2,300 dollars. Finally I was able to convince her mother that my daughter needed only to go to the nearest Social Security Administraion Office and apply under my name. Once they did this she recieved a monthly allottment and back pay. The back pay totalled $8,000 dollars. Now my monthly benefit has been garnishied by almost $100/month. It seems to me that the Back pay she recieved should more than cover those interim arrearages for which I am being docked. I am forced to live on a fixed Income and feel this is totally unfair? Does anyone have an answer or possible solution? Bob S. Evansville,In.

9/24/06
tigerlilie05@yahoo.com
I am proud to be the fiance of a man who has fought for and has gained domicilary custody of his three daughter's aged 5,6, and 8 in Louisiana. I am very excited that others have a place to come to such as FOL to discuss their fears, hopes and thoughts concerning their children that they fight for each day. Keep fighting DADS!!!!!!!

9/22/06
lou22@hotmail.com
My fiance has been going through a difficult time with his ex. They have a daugther, now 8 years old. They seperated when the child was a baby. My fiance was away working, while she had an affair with the neighbor guy (who was also married at the time, who she's married to now) His ex has done nothing but harass him. He pays almost $600 a month in child support, provides medical and dental, and has to pay 75% of the out-of-pocket. She constantly takes the child to the doctor, just to spite him. She took her to the orthodotist a few months ago for expensive comsetic surgery stating "if she has it done she won't need braces. (the child doesn't even have her adult teeth, yet!) We are left with a $400 bill because his insurance doesn't pay well on things like that. She calls him non-stop at work and makes threats if the bills are not paid fast enough. He told her not to do the surgery right now, we just bought a house and couldn't afford it, and her reply was "well, maybe you shouldn't have bought a house then!" Even though her now husband had to pay his ex back $1500 in back child support before they could finance their house(this she told me herself!) The guy only pays $200 a month as is! My fiance continues working and pays every month (he has the state take it out of his checks)Why is it he has no decisions regarding medical bills? If it's a cavity or something serious, fine, but a surgery that might not even work? Our lawyer even said his 2 daughters had it done, it didn't do a thing,they still needed braces. I think if my fiance has to pay 75%, he should have some say! We both love the little girl so much! His ex plays "keep away" and my fiance did not get even a phone call the last 2 father's days. We tried calling her for about 2 weeks before father's day weekend and she would not answer her phone! I know there are some "dead-beat dad's" out there, my father left when I was 9 years old, never paid a dime to my mother who had to support two kids on her own. I also think there are mothers out there who take advantage. She now has 2 other kids with this man, and how funny on the last med statement she sent us her 2 other kids have 3 charges total, my fiance's daughter has 15! It seems there are a lot of loopholes in the system. I know a lot of families where the parents are still married, and they have to both pinch and scrape and put off things like braces until the funds are available. Why is it the non-custodial parent is just "expected" to be able to give out money on demand?

8/14/06
wseeley@mchsi.com
Look I am going to say this upfront: I am not a father, however I am a single mom and have alot of the same issues as some of you. I have learned alot by dealing with my issues and helping other families out. If you think I might be able to help you please feel free to contact me at wseeley@mchsi.com. Just to tell you a little about me. I lost my 2 yr old daughter after my mother died in an accident. I was young and dumb then. That was almost 8 yrs ago. Since then Division of Family Services has tried to come in and take my second daughter (who by the way is 2 and half). They have taken me to court to try and prove me unfit, they have done investigations, you name it they have done it or tried it. I have won this battle. I have also went through the state rep to get some of my issues resolved. I would like to help anyone out there that wants to get their children in a better condition or get their children back. Thanks for your time Misty in Missouri

8/4/06
admess@adelphia.net
going thru leagally ligitmating my son while incarserated. trying to keep family intact v.s adoption

5/5/06
sboarderblitz@yahoo.com
There are millions of books and sites to help SINGLE MOTHERS...I am relieved to know there is at least one place to get some advice! I hope you guys can help me...support is what I think we all need!

5/3/06
budwiser032005@yahoo.com
courts have no mursey i the man i pay 145 a week i bring home 115 how am i suppose to pay the rest of my bill they dont give a shit i would like to know about goverment childsupport kickbacks. hang in there guys even know you might have a rough story to tell remember theres alway a story out there that makes your not look so bad bye ronnie jordan

4/7/06
ysalatall@yahoo.com
dads have rights also this is the place to stand together and network our experiences child support contract to pay instead of jail just ask me .

3/15/06
maga@juno.com
please maga is dey oooooooooooooooooooooo

3/11/06
kid702@yahoo.com
please post more updates

3/9/06
virtalex@gmail.com
Excuse for intrusion, but at me not the big question. How you think how many people on the ground smoke and how many have ceased?

3/4/06
homiie@aol.com
I just wanted to give a warm hello.

3/2/06
brit454@aol.com
Just wanted to say hi.

2/9/06
saintsalts@yahoo.com
I have joint custody of my son and my ex is or has moved to another state. Is there something I can do to stop the move, so i can still see my son, can she move why out my concent?

1/23/06
Julien0246@yahoo.com
Tis site is great but im looking for more, Im 26 and father of twins with a unrealistic ex.Im just starting the process for custody. This is a small start. Thanks

1/11/06
thefireman@gci.net
the problems that all noncustodial parents, and even some of the custodial parenst depending on what state or county you live in can be led to one thing, it is called the state plan and the contracts between the courts and the office of child suppoprt in or within jurisdiction of youre hometown.Yep youre judges are bound by contract to perform in the favor of CSED and the administrative state abd no its not for the best interest of the child. Would you like more, have lots of it and we are giving it all out to anyone and everyone, for youo cant fight if you dont realy know what youre fighting

12/29/05
www.bllbarfield@yahoo.com
This goes to all the fathers out there who are not getting the time with their children, HANG IN THERE

12/28/05
Alijarmon@msn.com
There should be away to send a message to everyone at the same time if needed that a member of Fathersonline.com

12/19/05
srt5657@aol.com
I am so glad found this site. so many unaswered Qs. hope i can be help to other dads and also get help for my situation through other fathers. thank you all. Steve

12/7/05
cezgg@comcast.net
I have three year old son and a nine month old daughter and i've been handed down and child support order with is okay but i'm looking for a lawyer to get me full or joint custdy if you know a good one please let me know via email

11/23/05
woodmongrel_trimman@yahoo.com
My heart goes out to you gentlemen,I myself are trying to keep my step kids from dhr

11/21/05
kj20052@verizon.net
it's wrong when the mother holds your children from you,for the stupidest smallest reasons, it's important that fathers be part of their childrens life, and not for mothers to use our childrens for there own personal issuses against their ex's, married or not. It doesn't make sence how the laws work it shouldn't just favor mothers, fathers should have the same rights equal rights. Congress should really open thier eyes and look in whats happening in many cases were our kids are be used to hurt fathers, and mothers not realizing what their doing to our childrens mental health by doing what thier doing. THANK YOU

11/20/05
bootlegerama@hotmail.com
should i bee concerned when future x telles 6yr old they are moving away when i am seeking temp cust

11/17/05
hncburris@verizon.net
What do you do about a bias judge that takes away your midweek visits becuae 20 minutes is too far for the custodial parent to drive after I have been doing all the driving for a year for midweeks and every other weekends to and from. I proved her to be unfit to take care of the kids because of poor hygeine - they are failing in school - her boyfriend sits around all night in front of my 11 yr old daughter and 8 year old son and she has withheld visitation and phone calls and the judge takes time away from me and never did anything about what I proved. She took custody away from me a year when she had me arrested on trumped up drugs charges that we all dismissed because they could never come up with any eveidence. Until then I had the kids since birth while she was was never around.

10/26/05
sugarplum0@hotmail.com
I am looking for my daughter's father for the past six years. He is very successful at hiding at the expense of living as a fugutive. He does not have a bank account...he has not filed income tax in the past few years and he does not have a drivers license. I work two jobs and my daughter and I barley get by...all I need is at least transportation for her to go to school and that will be a great help. She is now 14 and is the female version of him. Who cares if he doesn't want to see her...or if he is broke..he was broke when whe had her..I don't know how to get a hold of him...$20 a week is great by me.

10/25/05
usatoolman@msn.com
I would like to know if anyone out there has a hard time getting the divorce and then the ex wife soaking him dry. I live in the great state of Connecticut and I do not have any children but my life is at stake. My belongings and house is up for sale and I have nothing or no one. Just want justice for the person filing for a divorce because the partner could not keep her clothes on.

10/21/05
emax@telus.net
i am a mom going thru courts and stuff is hard on 'everyone'! Gods plan was that parents stay together and 'work things out' marriage is never easy even for the best couples there are times when things are 'very' hard. I know there are times and situations beyond our control. It 'is' heartwrenching anytime one or both parents and the kids have to be seperated from each other. God helps me get through things I dont know how but He works! things that would have driven most people nuts He has brought me 'through' i have found that the only thing i could do ---i better do! Teach them how to be decent people that don't give up on their problems but work them through so they won't inherit 'our' mistakes. 'when' they are with you .... give them quality time that is self sacrificing to yourself and benefical to them. Give them memories of their dad or mom that are positive if you aren't sure what that is look at other successful families and try to copy what they have done. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. Would you want someone to take them away more? Probably not. If there is more than one child consider timesharing with when one is with mom the other is with you that will ease your suffering and make you feel less lonely. Even if the other parent is bad...it hurts our kids to reenforce it after all they are half of both of you and they did not turn out so bad so maybe there is something good there after all even if it did not work for you. And guess what...we all make mistakes no one is perfect.If you try to make the best of the situation the way it is now and trust the Lord to help you, He can and will give you good things in your life He wants to.

10/8/05
scotts68c10@hotmail.com
Im looking

10/6/05
marywhite04@hotmail.com
I have 3 boys, 14, 11 and 6 with different dads. AS WELL AS 2yr old twins with hubby. I get along with the oldest and youngest ones father extrodinarily well, almost unbelievable but it works wonders for a mutual parenting relationship. my 11 year old however- i have joint custody, 2 weeks with dad, 2 weeks with mom. in the same school district. his father and i have struggled for 9 years. this past january he lost his other 4 year old son in a house fire and my 11 yr old was also devestated by this. i sought counseling but dad would never agree to take him during his custody. so in july of this year he injured himself on his bike with eye witnesses, his dad filed a protection from abuse against me and turned me in to CYS, it was unfounded after three weeks of investigation, CYS accompanied me to court on my behalf. my son insisted that I beat him so a PFA was granted for a year. his father has been arrested 4 times for DUI, is on house arrest, on state(not County) parole, was arressted for posession of drug paraphenilia, possession of a contolled substance and has a pattern of making false reports against me. however they cant be proven so the authorities dont do anything. I AM DEVESTATED AND GRIEVE EVERYDAY KNOWING I CANT SEE, TALK TO, HUG/KISS, SEND CARDS OR LETTERS OR GIFTS, I AM LOST WITHOUT MY SON AND HEARTBROKEN HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO HALLOWEEN, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, NEW YEARS, MOTHERS DAY, HIS 12TH B-DAY, 4TH OF JULY.......I CANT SEE HIM AGAIN UNTIL AUG OF 2006. ICANT AFFORD TO PAY A LAWYER AND DONT QUALIFY FOR LEGAL AID OR I WOULD FILE AN APPEAL. How can this happen, any advice from you dads would be great or if you know of a good lawyer in PA or NY that would work with me?PLEASE HELP!!!!!! my email is marywhite04@hotmail.com

10/4/05
aluttrell@tc3net.com
I have 2 girls ages 14, and 15 whom live with there mother. The mother was supposed to be in court for domestic assualt on the older sister on Monday October 3, 2005, unsure if she went. On Sunday Oct. 2, 2005, I recieved a call about the older sister, and my 15 year old missing, the mothers boyfriend had beaten up the older sister and her and my older daughter had fled the home. This was at approximatly 8:40 pm. Eventually the 2 girls showed up at there aunts house in the country in their pajamas and my daughter had no shoes on. They were exhausted and hysterical. To make a long story short, I contacted CPS, our local Friend of the Court office, and the County sheriff himself, and nothing has been done except the older sister has been removed from the home leaving my 2 daughters to fend for themselves. I need help to recieve temporary custody until I can afford an attorney to try to gain fulll custody. ALl 3 of the girls and they have a 5 year old brother who belongs to the mother and boyfriend have been in this abusive situation for several years. I could tell you stories that would raise the hair on your neck, but I will not go there right now. If there is anyone who can help me out there, please cantact me.

10/2/05
Spunky_84@hotmail.com
When one pays childsupport and they change jobs do to their doing ,the System WILL hold that person to what they have been paying on support prior to the change ,if it is more then what they get paid on their new Job ,when they have held a good paying Job and quit them on their own and or caused there being fired .They don't care ,the System, if the one who pays childsupport has to work two Jobs or not to pay what he has been paying .Beating the System I doubt it very much. there is ONE way ONLY that is if health keeps someone from working .By the way . Loving your Children is NOT ,Not caring what their needs are . Loving them is being with them as much as possible and caring for their needs .

9/23/05
Jacg@hotmail.com
Don't feel bad all you guys out there! Before I filed for a divorce 9 yrs ago, I got a job paying $5.50. I only paid $95 for my 3 girls for going on 9 yrs now. I beat the system!!! HAHAHA! F them. Who cares if my 3 girls need things...their mom had to get 2 fulltime jobs to make ends meet. I'm a creative accountant. My ex says that I'll get mine one day, but I could care less whether all 3 need braces, girl stuff, or food. Don't get me wrong, I love the girls very much but I hate their mother. People say how lucky I am to pay so little for 3 girls but I tell them that I have my own business and I'm an accountant. Good luck to all you guys out there!!

9/20/05
laurel_moss@yahoo.com
After reading your Dad to Dad section I realize that there are plenty of men going through the same situation my brother is with his estranged wife. We will be posting on the Dad to Dad in hopes of getting legal help. Thanks for a great site.

9/18/05
mcgee1488@yahoo.com
I missed the court date to get my child {it was on accident}. They gave them to a lady that had no rights to her. The court date was the 14th of sept. Its the 19th of sept. please give any info. on what to do to get her!

9/13/05
lilynpapo@yahoo.com
HI MY NAME IS LILIANA. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH IN THE NAVY. HE WAS MARRIED BEFORE AND HAD A SON THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HIS. I MEET HIS FOR THE FIRST TIME 1 MONTH AGO. MY HUSBAND PAYS FOR CHILD SUPPORT AND ALSO FOR MEDICAL AND DENTAL INSURANCE. WE EVEN WENT ALL THE WAY TO GETTING HIM A MILITARY ID INCASE OF AN ACCIDENT. IN ANOTHER WORDS WE DO PAY FOR EVERYTHING. I JUST GOT BACK FROM IRAQ AND HIS EX-WIFE IS DRIVING ME UP THE WALL. FROM THE LATE NIGHT CALLS THAT SHE MAKE AND HANGING UP ON ME WHEN I ANSWER THE PHONE. SHE STILL TELLS MY HUSBAND THAT SHE LOVES HIM BUT SHE IS ABOUT TO GET MARRIED AND HAS BEEN PREGNANT FROM OTHER MEN BEFORE. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET THIS LADY OUT OF MY LIFE. I AM A HAPPY PERSON AND ALL I WANT TO DO IS TALK TO HER AND SPEAK MY PEACE. BUT SHE WONT LET ME CALLING ME BAD NAMES AND LYEING TO MY HUSBAND THAT I HANGUP THE PHONE ON HER. I HAVE NEVER DONE SUCH THING. I NEED HELP IN STOPING THIS INSANE PERSON AND WANT FOR HER TO LEAVE MY FAMILY ALONE. I HAVE ENOUGHT STRESS IN MY LIFE LEAVING OUT TO WAR AND LEAVING MY FAMILY BEHIND. I JUST WANT ALL THIS TO STOP AND I JUST HOPE IN THE FUTURE THIS PERSON AND I COULD GET ALLONG. I DO WISH HER THE BEST IN HER NEW MARRAGE BUT I FEEL BAD FOR THE NEW GROOM TO BE. LOL IF SOMEONE IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME PLEASE E-MAIL ME.

9/13/05
b.amey@sbcglobal.net
child custody issue my boyfriend is having

9/9/05
MGBADAJOE@ABA.COM
I LOVE THIS PAGE.

8/31/05
thecinderellaaaa@yahoo.com
Im nead the information in spanish

8/19/05
metalic@yahoo.com
I am a divorced man of one year now. We have a 5 yearold son. He is my world. My ex-wife tried to get 100% custody. But, thanks to the great State of Arizona, I was thankful to know that; Arizona likes the idea of men who want to be fathers, lets them. If we would've been in California (which the holy matrimony began) she could've burned me for everything. God Bless Arizona. If anybody files for divorce, do it in Arizona where the law is FAIR. Not one sided like they are in other states. I'm sorry to all my fellow males out there, I guess my situation could be worse. Goodluck to you all.

8/16/05
rudesoundproductions@yahoo.com
My ex wife Natalee Barracks won'tlet me see my daughters and I've hadf court ordered visitation for the last 4 years but she has not let me see them, talk to them, and conceals their address. I don't know where my children live or who they live with. There was already a family incident where Natalee's younger cousin Andre who moved to Chicago from Jamaica was caught in the basement of Natalee's mothers house, on top of my then only 4 year old daughter. That situation was swept under the rug cause it was a family issue. But I'm scared for my daughters who are 15 and 13 now. And every since the fall of 1997 I've hasd a hard time seeing my children. I have an extensive criminal history involving the sale of drugs (1989) unlawful possesion of a weapon (1997) and I've had other past issues with the law in Chicago, but nothing was ever involving child endangement, murder or any sexual crimes. So what is the reason as a good father who was always there for my daughters, not be allowed to have a relationship with his children because the mother hates me and her way to pay me back is to keep my children from me any means necessary. She has lied in court several times, never complied with court orders and has no intention on ever respecting the courts decision to let me see my children. My problem is that I live in Atlanta, Georgia and they live in Chicago. Natalee can afford good crooked lawyers and I can't. I used to travel to Chicago for court from Atlanta, retain lawyers and get burned after 2 court dates and they want more money every time you see them and I feel I can't win. She is a church going liar and I'm an ex street kid that hasn't broke the law in years and I have no intention of doing so. I raise my 4 sons. Darrius (17), Mystery (4), Musiq (3) and Magic (2) I work very hard to keep my family together. My wife is very supportive but she see's my pain quite often. Not being able to have a relationship with my daughters is killing me. The lost time and special moments I'm missing out on, cause the mother has a new love interest and feels that I shouldn't be involved in their lives. It's ridiculous and I feel like I have nobody to turn to cause the judicial system is not set up in our favor. Fathers need rights. My kids won't be kids forever! I need a life with them to instill my values, and teach them my ways and how challeging this world is for females and how to handle all of this complication the world has in store for our children. My name is Darrick J.Clemons and my phone number is (770) 621-4640 and I need help obtaining justice, legal assistance, advice, etc. NO OTHER MAN CAN RAISE MY KIDS LIKE I WILL OR LOVE THEM THE SAME WAY.

8/16/05
steve077@telus.net
I am a male adoptee looking for my birth father. His name is Gordon McInroy or MacInroy.Please contact me as I have some medical questions for you. Thank you.

8/9/05
myflipper2@comcast.net
My son was arrested for failure to comply with a court order. He in fact did comply and the child support office worker lost the paper work (PGC Form 4412?) that should have been turned in to the courts. He was arrested, paid a first party cash bond of $500 dollars then he received a letter (motion to quash writ of attachment) from the circuit court for Prince Georges county child support enforcement office. Now he is having a problem trying to get the $500 bond returned. In addition, is there something that can be done about the caseworker losing the paperwork,I'm his mother and tried to sit in on a meeting at the child support office so he would have a witness to what these people had to say and I was not allowed. My son told me that the worker had two supervisors in the meeting and told him they lost the paperwork and wanted him to sign another paper. Someone's mistake caused my son to be aressted and I believe my son may have a law suit.

7/29/05
namtac100@yahoo.com
I can not get help for I am on disability and I am poor I have a custady case on going my sons mother is addicted to pills and I fear for my sons well being I don't know where to ture to please some one help me.I never knew my father and it will kill me if I can't give my son the father he deserves Some one please help I am desparate and do not want to make any mistakes that will hurt my cances of being in my sons life Thank you

7/24/05
mark_ww354@mail.com
Congratulations on the new layout. Keep it up to date as a celebrity :)

7/17/05
rdeaton@mchsi.com
looking for advice in dealing with non-custodial parent issues and how to advoid conflict within the family

7/17/05
alex_mm453@mail.com
Where are the updates? i cant seem to find them. But anyway, nice job.

7/16/05
james194r@yahoo.com
really good one, but i would stick more with updating and fresh data. this will help a lot to play.

7/13/05
jcalimee@sandiegosymphony.org
I am a 47 year old father. my xwife made false statments to the courts and got a restraining order against me, now it has bee almost 2 years since i seen my little girl. please help!!!!!!!

7/13/05
cmills358@hotmail.com
unwed fathers rights

7/13/05
stanfield_gary@yahoo.com
I am a 26 yr old father of 2 girls both different mothers.i pay 200 to each mother.i am 10000 behind becuz i started behind like 7000 and then i got sick and could not work. now i am working full time again and i am paying alot back which is no big deal to me.but today there was money taken out of my account is this for real child support srvs can just come in and take $ from someone and leave them w/ nothing to live off of so they can get back and forth to work.i have no $ now and i dont think im going to be able to make it to work for the rest of the pay period.what is this country coming too....im in the army national guard in ca.....and if this is the freedom im fighting for forget it!I see no freedom to fight for anymore....this country is sad and it makes me sad that i might have to die to keep letting the system screw ppl that pay child support over....WHAT SHOULD I DO?

7/13/05
keithecap@yahoo.com
Good luck fathers, remain an active participant in your childrens lives.

7/3/05
leahpr@verizon.net
Im a 40 year old father with 1 boys, 1 girl with a X that left me 20 years ago.and who i only had my first 2 kids with. she in 20 years got welfare in 5 differt states.6 years ago are son ran away and I had are daughter for the last 6 years.I have a welfare case worker in Alabama calling me.trying to say I owe for back cild suport from 1997 to 2004 she never had either one of them,and I and my wife had my daughter. when I ask him why they dont do a background check to see if she scaming the state. he said they dont have the people for that so that I owe.i payed lets fight.she left them for 10 year with other people in sperts hooked on meth.

6/30/05
donkeydick1995@yahoo.com
what do I got to do to get full custody

6/25/05
idemili oba mumu@yahoo.com
i like to be a good man

6/24/05
palmam88@yahoo.com
I have an daughter who is 9 years old, and when I got divorced in 2001, my ex-wife and I were granted Joint Custody (my ex-wife was appointed as her Primary Managing Conservator). Since our divorce, my ex-wife has gone from fair to really, really, really badly addicted to drugs, Methamphetamine, Cocaine, Crack (all I.V.) in addition to Marijuana, and Chronic Alcoholism. In 10/2004, I found out that my ex-wife had her two other kids (both from her first and third marriage) taken away from her by CPS. I had then (in contempt of court orders) kept my daughter from going to live back with her mother, and "hid her out" for two weeks while I hired an attorney, and filed a motion to modify the Child Custody in our final divorce orders. My daughter had been strangled by my ex-wife's common-law husband, who is on probation for drug charges, and is over twenty years older than my ex-wife and myself (We are 33). I have been very firm abut my daughter having contact with her mother, as i only allow her visitation in a supervised setting(basically ONLY when I am present). I have done this due to my child's horror stories about her being at "crack houses", witnessing her mother having sexual intercourse, using I.V. and additional alcohol and drugs in her presence, and literally living in feces, and a complete disregard for my daughter's welfare and best interest. Now my daughter is very upset because her mother refuses to get help or enter rehab, and even telephone her. The last conversation she had with her mother (3 weeks ago) I monitored (as I have in addition to extensive written documentation). My ex-wife tld my daughter "she was raped by 4 black guys, while she was walking in a predominately "drug active' neighborhod, and was robbed, tied up, beaten, and then finally freed after 6 days." I immeadiately ceased the conversation and scolded my ex-wife for her content of discussion with my daughter. I later found out the truth-she went on her free will to a "crack house' and was shooting up crack(which I did not know was feasible), and after spending $700.00 (from her unemployment check, she consensually had sex with several african american men in return for more crack, then returned to her common-law husband, and told him "the lie she told my daughter". I now have my daughter (for the second time in 4 years in Counseling, as she tells me "I hate my mom, she doesn't love me", and I am telling her "that her mother is sick, and has a disease (drug addiction). I am ging about this the right way, or should I stop defending her mother, and allow her to continue her behavior.? She has madea 360 degre turn in the positive direction, academically, physically, and spiritualy. I was addicted to Prescription Meds (Vicodin, Lortab, Norco, Hydrocodone, etc.., but hae been clean over 3 years now. I would really like to have someone share their thoughts, comments, and/or suggestion() they may have. I appreciate any reply. palmam88@yahoo.com

6/22/05
jbstrings@hotmail.com
my ex wife had a child that has been having problems and she used that as an excuse to move to florida where her ex husband that she was in contact lives and she hasnt let me see the child at all and i dont think he is mine and my children have seen him and he has red hair and i have black hair and he has blue eyes and i have brown and they said he doesnt look anything like me.. well what should i do because i am tired of paying for a kid they might not be mine when i could use that money for my 13 year old daughter?

6/22/05
tbird1940@aol.com
had 2 children taken from me 40 years ago,i tracked them to milwuakee wisconson my ex remarried to a childabuser they adopted them even though i had them percourt order in nyc hon curtis wilwaukee childrens court should go back to law school

6/20/05
erfdf@earthlink.comkeep up the good work
keep up the good work

6/19/05
markarcher1@btinternet.com
my ex wife wanted me out of my daughters life 5 years ago,my daughter is now 10 years old. I do not now where she is even living as we speak. Thanks to british justice i do not see my daughter.birthdays and christmas are very hard .

6/16/05
bsi-international@earthlink.net
FATHERS: FIRED UP AND FED UP! PHILADELPHIA, PA. (U.S.A.) � 16 June 2005 � This Father�s Day weekend will mark the third anniversary of the Million Dad March � an event that was first launched on Father�s Day in Calendar Year 2003 by Thomas Lessman, of Topeka, Kansas, a Father�s Rights activist and Chairman of the Million Dads March. During this Father�s Day weekend, Fathers will take to the streets in cities throughout our global village to engage in peaceful demonstrations that celebrate Fatherhood and call attention to the unique parenting and health needs of Men. In the United States, men are scheduled to participate in a peaceful demonstration in Washington, D.C. during this Father�s Day weekend. In the days leading up to Father�s Day Weekend 2005, a National Father�s Rights Conference will be held in Detroit, Michigan on 16 June 2005 and 17 June 2005. And the Second National Men�s Congress will be held in Washington, D.C. on 15 July 2005 and 16 July 2005. So what�s up with Dad? Why are Fathers fired up and fed up? �Married Fathers, Divorced Fathers, Single Fathers, Custodial Fathers, Non-Custodial Fathers, �Long Distance� Fathers and �Stay-At-Home� Fathers are not only shaping the minds and souls of our children, but they are seriously examining the causes of the breakdown of the family as they redefine their roles and responsibilities as parents. Men � especially Men who are Fathers are shouting at the top of their lungs: �Hey, I am a man! I�m not a wallet. I�m a human being. I laugh. I love. I cry. I dream. I hurt. I am a man! I am quite capable of loving, nurturing and mentoring my children � even if it means that I have to do it alone � as a Single Father, a Non-Custodial Father or a �Stay-At-Home Father�! I am tired of being made to feel that I have no value . . . that I am not needed! There are not enough resources and support services available to me that will help me move my family forward. There is not enough research and research funding being devoted to my unique health issues. And I want to be treated fairly by the courts in child custody and child support matters. I want the courts to look at me and see that I, too, am worthy of being given sole custody of my children,� says Diane A. Sears, a member of the University Council of Akamai University�s Fatherhood and Men�s Studies Program; author of IN SEARCH OF FATHERHOOD� -- TRANSCENDING BOUNDARIES; and Managing Editor of IN SEARCH OF FATHERHOOD� Forum For and About the Fathers of the World, a quarterly male parenting journal which is exclusively published and distributed by BSI International, Inc. in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Sears who has been at the helm of the international quarterly parenting journal since its launch in October 1999, has interviewed over 100 Fathers from diverse backgrounds and geographic locations. Sears says that Men � especially Men who are Fathers � are not just sitting around chatting about what they need and want. According to Sears, Men are taking action. What kind of action? �In September 2004, the Indiana Civil Rights Council launched a federal class action suit on behalf of Non-Custodial Fathers in the United States against the states of Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont and Virginia. Why? The federal class action lawsuit takes the position that states, through Family Court and agencies of the family court system, are denying liberty, privacy and family interest protection to non-Custodial parents � specifically � Non-Custodial Fathers. The lawsuit views this denial as a violation of the United States Constitution. On 17 January 2005, a Dutch Father in the City of Utrecht in The Netherlands � dressed in a Batman costume � staged a protest for several hours on a rooftop balcony atop a courthouse to call attention to the unfair treatment that Divorced Fathers experience in courts in The Netherlands. Men � especially Men who are Fathers � are talking to one another, supporting one another and forming coalitions which extend beyond geographic borders.� Sears observed. �Fathers are also flexing their �political muscles.� In August 2003, Warren Farrell, Ph.D., a prolific author of books on Fatherhood and Men�s issues announced his candidacy for the 7 October 2003 California Gubernatorial Recall Election. Dr. Farrell ran on a �Father�s Rights� platform. In the months leading up to the 2004 Presidential Election, a debate raged in Internet online discussion groups among Men in the United States concerning which Presidential candidate � Mr. Bush or Mr. Kerry -- would fight for fathers,� added Sears. # # #

6/13/05
faithwins@optonline,net
Hello: My Name is Kevin Holmes I have a 8 year old son,and I work at night, in as a Law enforcement Officer. My wife left and is now married again, it's been 6-7 year and I have not gone there not even a date. I love God and I want to be an example for my son

5/29/05
dougfleszar@hotmail.com
NATIONAL CONGRESS OF FATHERS AND CHILDREN helping Fathers in Pennsylvania.

5/25/05
jjcleaning248@hotmail.com
i am in a very bad situation i buy everything for my son but the mother takes a way my visitation let her boyfriend who attacks my son be around him their is no custudy establish i have been every where tring to get help no sicial services no legal aid will help me can not afford a lawyer can anybody tell me how can i get the legel document needed to do it myself for custudy

5/24/05
j_seversen @yahoo.com
hi there. we had a little boy that my love fathered with a nutty chic. he is only 8 and lives in a pay by the day motel. she is a crack head .we live in IN and she in AZ. just wanted to know if that was we can get this little boy to take care of him her family has alot of money also we somewhat do but not as much [please help

5/23/05
shelton9566@bellsouth.net
need to know of an attorney who will actually fight for fathers rights. i live in lebanon,tn 30 miles east of nashville

5/19/05
getapril2003@yahoo.com
Mothers please stop putting men up for chld suppt when they are trying just b/c you don't like the new love of his life and please stop keeping the kid/s away from him they will only grown up to resent you for it is only a matter of time before they start to understand what's going on. Fathers stop disowning your child/ren b/c of something they said or b/c they are dating your homie, which is not cool moms Stay away from baby daddy's best-friend/s. Get alone for the child and saying bad things about each other or allowing new loves to talk down on their parents is a no, no. We have to pull together and mothers know that a man who loves his child will let no woman mistreat them and vise-versa. I love you all. If one stand we all we soon be standing.

5/19/05
STEPHEN@RYELEA1960.FSNET.CO.UK
HOW DO I GO ABOUT CUSTERDY OF MY 14 YR OLD GIRL SHE LIVES WITH ME ALL THE TIME BUT HER MOM IS TELLING ME NOW WHO & WHO SHE CAN SEE NOT SEE & THINGS R GETTING IN A MESS SO CAN I GET SOLE CUSTERDY OF ME GIRL ?

5/15/05
fazer0012000@yahoo.com
Need help locating my daughter

5/15/05
acusniper@yahoo.com
Oh boy, i just got served with divorce papers from my wifes attorney. I took it well, and even offered to help the guy who served the papers with his supposed "flat tire"... Anyway my wife was very controlling during our 10 year relationship. Her mother died of aids when my wife was only 15, and my father died of aids a year and a half ago. Our marriage was cursed from the start. We gave up our first daughter for "open" adoption, see: http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/02/adoption/ Yes! the parents in the story at the bottom is my wife and I... We had a baby boy march 2003...She has been addicted to hydrocodone, and klonapin, and actively saught out these drugs through friends, dentists, psychs, hospitals, even my mom traded pills with her. One day I came home from a job i had in a college. It was 2:00am and i heard my son crying as i came up the stairs. I ran to the door of my apartment and opened the door to see my wife sleep on the floor in the living room by the phone... I quickly ran to my son and gave him a bottle and he was fine. So i tried to wake my wife up, but she wouldnt wake up!...I clapped, I stomped, i yelled, then i got a 2 liter bottle of coca cola and dropped it on the floor by her head....she still wouldnt wake up.. I shook her, and she was still out... I was in a panic and i though she was dead so I checked her pulse... she was alive thank god, and I got some water and splashed her with it...She moved and finally woke up. She was on a drug called klonapin, a drug that they give to people who have seizures, and it reduces your heart rate and breathing. anyway. she came out of the hospital on monday in april 2005 and took my son on tuesday, i called cps and told them about all the prescription drugs, weed, and drinking, i even told them about the time she needed to go to the emergency room for a head ache, and the nurse would not prescribe her anything for pain as she wanted, but the nurse suggested a spinal tap to find out what was wrong with her supposed headache...i knew she was in there trying tho get prescription pills and when she fell asleep i went home to walk the dog... Ring ring, "hello?" It was the hospital telling me that my wife took the I.V. out of her arm and left the hospital, and they were going to send the cops if she did not return, i drove down the street that night on the way to the hospital, and there she was walking down the street, going home, with NO head ache... It was only fitting that our marriage ended in the hospital were she was admitted into the psyc ward for trying to commit suicide with pills just 3 years earlier, and 3 months earlier than that she was getting her stomach pumped in that same hospital... so after cps got her signature for a release of HER medical records, she hired a lawyer and served me with divorce papers, for cruel and inhuman treatment, and constuctive abandonment...lol e-mail me gents...i wanted to talk to the guy with the bad back, cuz he inspired me...i dont know how he is still able to type with all the stuff he's going through... talk to ya later jw aka ayatollah

5/12/05
willyosopitt@yahoo.com
father looking for info. on child custody & visit.

5/6/05
fairy_kisses82@yahoo.com
I would like to become a member. I tried signing up, but there is an error everytime I try. What am I doing wrong?

5/5/05
knightriderlc@yahoo.com
please help me did i make the right choice leave my wife because of the screamings and fusses and name calling my daughter caused i feel like i let my wife down i feel like im a dead beat dad my wife has payed my child support for 6 years and i just broke inside and left my wife is now sick with cancer and numerous of other sicknesses please help me get my head straight.

4/26/05
really_sweet_princess@yahoo.com
It hurts to see my husband having to give up his college hopes because he hasd to get two jobs to support our famuly and a woman who has his child thats NOT working because she is getting her "masters"degree! Does a father not have the option to better4 himself also?

4/25/05
lovedloser09@yahoo.com
well i would like to get testing done to see my medical history and who my father is for sure.. please help

4/22/05
ftbliss69@yahoo.com
GREAT JOB; AND INFO

4/19/05
cljensen25@yahoo.com
hi need help

4/13/05
krystle3185@netzero.net
I am a concerned mother of two beatiful daughters. There real father doesn't feel that he needs to help me support the girls finically or have anything to do with them. I dont know what to do. I see my older daughter who is six, cry all the time what should I do?

4/11/05
susanneb1984@yahoo.co.uk
My daughter is 2 years old and her father hasn't seen her since October 2003, he now is engaged and has another child by his current girlfriend. There is a dispute over paternity but he signed the birth certificate and as there was violence in the relationship, I didn't argue. How can I get him out of our lives? I am with a new partner, and I am 20 weeks pregnant with our child, and we have been looking into adoption but we'd like to wait until my daughter is old enough to have a say. Any advice would be much appreciated.

4/11/05
SYEDMASOODSHAHSYED@YAHOO.CO.UK
i m pakistani and i m male 33 years i m primary school teacher n.w.f.p.government in pakistan. i live hand to mouth as teaching in pakistan is thankless job. for bright future i want to settle in your country. i need your help far said purpose i want to merry you in this way you will easily call me to your country we will live for ever if you are not willing to marry me then do favour far me in this regard and arrange my marrige with some one your friends or arrange work permit for me. i m ready to marry with 15years to 45 years old woman i candidly write every thing to you it is up to you do pity upon nead help me i hope you will not disappoint me i shall ever remember your this kind act thx from shah e-mail:syedmasoodshahsyed@yahoo.co.uk

4/1/05
Carracer135@aol.com
I was married to a woman that was 1 month pregant, when I married her! She told me that the father didnt want the child. So I signed the birth certificate.I was born with spinenbifida,and can-not have kids.So worked out ok untill she left me.. She withdrew the intyer bank acc,and took a new car I bought for her.Then charged all the credit cards to there max, after are divorce was final she filed bankrupe.So im paying back those to.I have taken care of the child as my own, she is 10 now.Just got papers the other day for child support.hum I dont no my rights help.Do I have to pay,I did sign the birth certificate in 1995. I can claim S.S.I BUT CHOOSE TO WORK.IM in Oregon..And need some help

3/30/05
sublime5373@yahoo.com
My husband has a son from his X and he is now 11, my husband has not seen him in 10 years.... We pay child support every pay day and she will not let us talk to him or even visit him.... When the got divorced he did sign some papers and he does not remember what he signed... needless to say she will not let us visit with him.... we have other children and he has never met them.... we have heard that he wants to see us but his X will not let him.... We do not know what to do.... I feel that we pay we should be able to see or even talk to him on the phone. We talked to his X and she told us she only want our money and that my husband has NO rights to him, Tell me if you think that I am wrong cause we want to get to know him.... We told her that we wanted to see him as long as it does not interfear with his schooling..... WHAT SHOULD I DO????? I want to call her and talk (should I??) I just do NOT think that she is being fair........PLEASE HELP....ANYONE

3/30/05
marmstrong@hvc.rr.com
I am in desperate need of some help.My ex took my daughter to venice florida five yrs. ago and now has just turned off the only phone number I had to call my child.I am now being told I have to get an attorney down in florida to fight her for any type of visition with my little girl I spoke to my girl 5&6 times a week and am now on disability recovering from a injuries from a car accident and cannot afford to come down to florida I need to find legal help fast. I don't want my little girl who is only 7 to think her daddy has forgotten her Please is there anyone out there who can help me

3/29/05
ccforadory@comcast.net
I share custody of my daughter who unknown by me has now missed so much school, she is indefinately expelled. I'm talking about an A-B student going into her senour year, who's mother writes false excuses for her being absent at school and a school who failed to contact me. She just turned 18 and now my arms are tied. Is there any legal recourse? Please respond!

3/22/05
TPNETX@HOTMAIL.COM
SINGLE FATHER OF TWO TRY TO GET BACK ON TRACK BUT HAVE KNOW PLACE TO START OR TO STAY. IM AT GROUND ZERO.

3/22/05
sconepower@hotmail.com
My X has custody of my 8-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son but for the last 7 month my son was living with me. He went home for spring break and his mother kept him and refused to send him back. At the same time she has recently moved and refused to give me her new address and home #. I live in Texas and she lives in Oregon. What can I do and how can I file contempt for not giving me contact info for the kids?

3/19/05
twoscrews40@aol.com
The state of MN needs to change there laws. Since I wasnt married to the mother of my child, I have no rights to her, but I have to pay child support and right now I have no visitation.

3/17/05
spellbinder_69@hotmail.com
My ex has bipolar. she is keeping the baby from me I am not aloud to see him. she refuses to do a blood test or a dna test. she use to tell me everyday that our son is not mine when she was mad. now she says that he is not mine and that he already has a father. what should i do he is not even 3 months old. she is already with another man after only 1 week of seperation and we are involde with cas

3/14/05
suzierunt@yahoo.com
I know that some people feel that fathers play an important part of a childs life, I don't completely disagree. If the father is an alcoholic and bi-polar I believe he needs strict supervision when caring for the child. Unfortunately the courts and my lawyer don't feel he will further neglect his child other than not changing her diaper in a three hour period. If there are any other Moms facing these issues, please email me at the above address.

3/11/05
blankphase@yahoo.com
i was charged w negelect abuse endangerment etc... after invest. all droped because of no proff. however court app. law. and AGAL (guard.) for son but still want me to make dicis. but get override.whats up? asked today what to do i said keep locked up till 16 then 30 treat center then see how he acts they said no asked step mom what and they turned him loose to her friend and sister till then well i suppose he gets what everyone else figures is best Where is MY right to whats best?

3/10/05
dreams@ardenentertainment.com
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3/6/05
milesoner@aol.com
im legeal sperated my fife whants to take my son out of the country with out me but i dont agree what can i do. i have one more question i make 9 an hour every 2 weeks and im paying 406 is that fare what can i do im a good father and a good husdand never cheated please help me

3/5/05
nathanialbatson@yahoo.com
Hi I am a father that gave my son to dhs to keep him safe from his mother but know dhs will knot give him back and know they are going totake my son from . thet have know charges agenst me at all I have done all the class they have asked me to but they still will knot lett me have my son bake so is thaer any one that can help me to get my son back . I live in tulsa oklahoma And I dont have the money to get a good lawer I am a good father and to my son he is 4 and dhs has had him for a year now so if you think that you can help pless contaked me

3/3/05
erickverikas@yahoo.com
I am looking for a web site. The site has free legal forms. I need to patitaion health and wealfair to lower my childsuport.

3/2/05
krawl76@hotmail.com
I am the father of a 3 yr old. mY EX WONT LET ME SEE HER. unless i pay 66$ for getting her this is due to the fact that my ex signed a contract for a babysitter. She being my ex, just in the past 5 months got a job after 3 years without one. she got assistance (welfare) during this time. i was just wondering am i liable for this babysitters fee or not. email me and let me know

3/1/05
monkruzltd@hotmail.com
Anyone out there willing to share info on Child visitation issues and child visitaton interference issues, please email me.

2/28/05
freakaleaze@yahoo.com
i am a father that had his children taking from him about 2years ago by the mother that gave them to me 8years ago know i have to fight a very one sided memphis court what we call the whole affair is legal parental kidnapping. no luck in sight

2/26/05
fathermugu@yahoo.fr
i am a father of 78 children i want sell them out please if you want to buy some contact me eze mugu

2/25/05
ps_parsons@bellsouth.net
I'm a mother w/sole custody of our children. I'm trying to help get my ex-husbands monthly payments lowered, but having problems finding the cheapest way. Any suggestions? We live in Birmingham, AL.

2/24/05
leonbrady@rogers.com
i need to find a family law lawyer with experience in dealing with the childrens aid society, My children were wongfully apprehended and I am desperate to get them back. PLEASE can someone direct me to anyone who can help

2/14/05
badguykiller@yahoo.com
This is a great idea. A place for fathers to ban together and help one another. We must stick together.

2/14/05
wcc@merichem.com
Is there anyone here that can give much needed help and advise to a Father in TX. that wants to get custody of my two kids?I am just a Dad that wants the best for my kids and to give them the opportunities that I didn't have as a child. Pleas Help

2/14/05
pps0001@hotmail.com
where can I view German child support rules in brief? I'm an Aussie father & shes German- our son was born in Germany- I 've heard their rules are much tougher than in Australia? thanks

2/12/05
jrudedog2005@yahoo.com
I am a 53 yr old father of a 1 yr old girl. I have been going through hell for the last 3 months trying to get over the love of my ex girlfriend and trying to spend the most time with my daughter. I am also trying to get equal parenting time. I need some moral support. Somebody please help me.

2/7/05
mugu@mugu.com
it is very nice site keep it on

2/6/05
dotti51_1954@hotmail.com
hello all. i am not a daddy.. but a grand mother. a daddy's mom.. my son is going trew a bad divore. his wife if you want to call her a wife. has had four affair. and brought one of tem whom was his cousin. right into his home while he was at work. she has been gone now for almost eight months. living with hercrack head boy friend. my grand babys visit every other week. until judge will do some thing. she gets them a week my son gets them a week. my two grand daughters. age 3 and 5 need their dad. the person who cooks.. keeps their home clean. washes their cloths. gets them off to school.she sends them to school dirty. they say they go to bed with out a snack.. all babys needs a glass of milk before bed time. mine always did. i have seen her push them away. say get the f.... out my face. if judge gives her them babys. i will go off on a bunch.sheis a crack user.. but court sucks any more. guess what im really saying is. my son need your prayer. and god bless all the father. whom is not getting do right. a granny in south eastern kentucky.

2/4/05
drewsaxton@yahoo.com
i will be a new father sep 5 2005

2/2/05
Raine3@aol.com
Obviously this site is in great demand which in itself reflects the discrimination Father's are dealt no matter the geographical location. I tried unsucessfully to register as a member, but received repeated error message concerning an invalid e-mail adress. I think the reason I wasn't allowed in was b/c I didn't fill out the "optional" questions. Thanks for nothing gentlemen. I will seek advice elsewhere.

1/27/05
www.pimpdog98801@yahoo.com
i have questions

1/25/05
jwmehnert@aol.com
My name is Jeff and I impregnated my x girlfriend who is also 24 in sept or oct of 04. I freaked out and told her I did't want anything to do with her or the baby. I now have changed my mind and want to try and work things out with her and be there for her and the baby. She told me recently she didn't want me to have anything to do with her or the baby she will call after she has it. She wouldn't even tell me when the due date is or if it was a boy or girl. I feel helpless, please help. Thank you. Jeff

1/22/05
jamana1432004@yahoo.com
i would like to seek some legal advice for my brother?

1/12/05
shortgirlsweet22@aol.com
hi this is ileana velazquez i am sorry i am forget put on the note

1/11/05
cindy@a-family-affair.org
I am a true believer that parents who love their children and spend time with them make a more productive, loving adult.

1/9/05
SHORTGIRLSWEET22@AOL.COM
HI INEED TO MY FATHER IS LUIS M VELAZQUEZ IT IS 12 YEAR NOT SEE THEM . PLEASE INFO ME I AM DEAF

1/8/05
aylaanddustin@aol.com
My name is Greg. I am 32yrs old. In November of 2004 I had gotten my rights to see my 2kids unsupervised. Ever since then, the mother has giving me nothing but problems. She now has the child protection involved and they are asking me ??? about what has happened with my kids in my home. She accused me of beating up our 3 year old son. When in fact; I recorded my 5 year old daughter saying that their older half brother beats them all the time. I just want them in a safe home, where they will not be abused

1/4/05
eandmpinson@aol.com
IM a hurt father trying to stop a mother from letting me be a dad. Ihave papers but she keeps tyying to contest the rules we made because of I met someone,She has a problem with some one els caring about my daughter.She has defied the papers we drew up about 10 times She is contemp of court when she took thanksgiving day away from me because she wanted her,thers been plenty of nasty coments, taking her out of daycare when im in custidy saying she has a fever when it goes against daycare advice not to mention contemp of court. She makes coments like sence you left im going to make your life a living HeLL,what do yo do in a situation like this.

12/31/04
spicenutts@yahoo.com
Hello. My name is christopher. I have a commen problem with fathers today. We have a son together but she won't let me see or talk to hime . I don't even know where is lives or have no number to call. We had a parternity test done and i was 99.9% his dad. The judge issued a min. visit of 4 times a year, and altornate holidays. The other guy who thought he was excluded from the case as the judge said to her. She tells him that he is your farther not me . I live in florida and its hard to go back and forth to court. I need some help to fight for my son and what is right. To love and to share him equally. Thank you for under standing.

12/27/04
trouble929@msn.com
I just start paying child support last year .I had the judge tack on an additional 80,000.00 on my salary just imagine that nightmare .... I need help

12/8/04
shelleyv@centurytel.net
Child SUPPORT,Paying too much over the last 6 month's and have not been geting littel cooperation from C.R.U.I. AND AR lost 600.00 = witch had to be compland about to be sent to IA R.E.V. I Have 5 child in keokuk IA I live in AR

12/8/04
CharleMust@aol.com
I know this is just for men on here but I need help ..I'm an 18 yr old female and my bf is 26 he has been married 2x and has a child from the 1st marriage and is going through divorce right now of a second marriage ... he just signed divorce papers 2 weeks ago and is really sad and depressed and he's an alcoholic bad he already has a health problem with the alocoholism he refuses help from me and his family and his ex wants to take his son and leave and it's killing him and drinks everyday until he falls asleep and he can get his head above water he's trying to get a place of his own and and his son and she's trying to charge him with abuse of his son ...i've told him about the laws for father but he thinks it won't work and he's very prideful ... our relationship is new somewhat and iunno what to do to help out of the depression and alcoholism it's like he doesn't care if he lives or dies and it's breaking my heart...please reply back and help me!!!

12/2/04
adampierson_99@yahoo.com
I am seeking a mentor to help me deal with issues concerning women and to be a better father to my child. I found out on Wednesday that my child will be a girl. I am looking forward to it and being a first time father. Looking forward to hearing from you.

12/1/04
kelly.miller@nextstudent.com
Hey this is a nice site! If you ever need a student loan check out our student loan site!

11/16/04
ejjigga@hotmail.com
i hope this site is able to help the fathers that are doing their job like myself and is being stepped on by mothers that abuse their rights

11/16/04
John Morris
Is there a time limit on when your employer has to send in your support payment? If yes then is there a fine they get for not doing it? or they just get a tap on the hand Your system won't let me post!!!!

11/16/04
randylayne@hotmail.com
my then 16 y.o. daughter had a baby before she turned 17, her mother has both now, and wants me to pay support, do i legally need to pay a third of my pay, take away from my 2nd family of 4?

11/10/04
Chris.landers@verizon.net
I have a girlfrend who has two kids. She doesn't want them, but can't get the dad to take them. Help.

6/11/04
GENCO2003@optonline.net
HAVEING A HARD TIME COPING WITH DIVORCE AND ALL THE SLANDER MY MY WIFES HIGH PRICED LAWYER COMPARED TO MY EVERY DAY LAWYER HELP

6/9/04
krissyforrester@yahoo.com
I need some help with dealing with an ex wife? My husband got a divorce 5yrs ago, and has a 8 yr old daughter. the daughter comes to our house every other week, he has 50% legal and 50% physical custody, and still pays support(not a problem), the problem is that the ex wife is so controling,nd makes 2 times the amount of money we do. she continues to hide income, and lie about everything. we are always the bad guys no matter what we say or do. the system seems to always side with her. we have to pay 50 50 of everything, medical dental, and have to provide the insurance. the mother tells us all the time, oh its paid in full, and even writes it down "paid in full", and still she can guarnish his wages....the system sucks. its not fair, that the mother gets all the control. were good ppl, and we love the daughter very much. the mother just recently posed as myself, to get information from the insurance company, and the court dosent see a problem with that. she continues to do what ever she wants, useing his social number and other personal info to get her own info. is there some way to stop her from knowing everything?????? she has more money that god, and we are a single income family........when is it our turn to have a private some what normal life? its not fair...the court always sides with her......someone please help me with some advice on how to stop her form destroying us, and still be parents to the daughter with out the fighting?????krissy

5/25/04
vosburg1@aol.com
please help need help get custody of my 1 year old daughter in the state of pa

5/17/04
royalplus4@hotmail.com
my daughters mother and i were never married. We split up when my daughter was 14 months old. when i went to the f.o.c to establish paymants i was told that i didn't have to pay because my name was not entered on the birth certificate. i went to the local welfare dept. and asked them to issue a paternity test and was told that i just wanted a freebie and was denied. my daughters mother never contacted me for me to see my daughter and her parents refused to tell me where she was. i ran into her when my daughter was 22 months old and told her that i wanted to see her and her mother promised me contact but she had lied to me. shortly after my daughters 2nd birthday i discovered that her mother had signed over guardianship to her parents - just as she had previously done with her oldest son. i was constantly denied visitation with my daughter and was threatened with the law. i did not have the means to pay for any paternity testing to gain custody of her nor could i afford an attorney. in 2000 she petitioned the courts to get custody back from her parents and was denied several times before the courts allowed her to have custody. in aug. 2001 she contacted me and told me that i could start seeing my daughter. i lived in nevada at that time with my wife and we decided to move back to michigan the following year so that i could be closer to my daughter. since we have moved back this woman has made our lives a living hell. she has attacked my wife, tried to get her fired from her job, has belittled and called my other daughters names (my step-daughters) has lied to the court system so many times that she cannot keep a straight story. we have established paternity - finally in jan. 2003. my wife (and the local police dept.) seems to think that my daughters mother is highly jealous of her. everytime i try to see my daughter it is on her terms or if i try to contact my daughter i am told that shes not available and never lets her return my calls. as a result of all this i have had to change my home phone # because of the incessant calls from her she still has a cell phone number to reach me - i have not had a visit with my daughter in 6 weeks. the judge set time and place of pickup and delivery to the both of us to which she has decided that she doesn't have to follow. she insists that she come to my home, change time/days weekends. i just cannot win in this situation. my wife does not allow her to come to our home because of the attack to which she is telling the f.o.c that we tried to kidnap my daughter. i do not want to return her calls simply because i do not want to talk to her but to my daughter who will soon be 9. i feel that i have to talk to her first to get or win her approval. she is a very controlling person with some issues of her own. if shes happy then she leaves me and my wife alone if she unhappy the whole friggen world pays for it. the last phone call she made to my wife was telling her that if we can't take my daughter when its convenient for her then we need to sign off on her which is complete and utter bullshit. anyone else in michigan going through th8is? i need help now before i'm forced to take other actions

5/1/04
yourresearcher2004@yahoo.com
experiencing difficulties with web site ,but you can still e-mail me for answers to many family law questions.

5/1/04
yourresearcher2004@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/yourresearcher2004/LEGALRESEARCH.html this is our website ,check us out!!!

5/1/04
http://www.geocities.com/yourresearcher2004/LEGALRESEARCH.html
we want to help you find the infomation to help with family law issues in your state.

4/29/04
originalcloudtown@yahoo.com
I am a single mom of 1, my boyfriend is the non-custodial parents to 4. I see both sides to all arguments. His ex's hurt him by not letting him see his kids and getting the court to overcharge him for support. My ex plays no-pay and pop in dad. neither of us can win. the System needs to be changed.

4/28/04
loco_oso@iwon.com
I'm not a father ,but a soon to be stepmom trying to find help for my fience. his ex-wife ran away with his babies claiming that he beat her.He NEVER touched her ,she's the one with the violent temper. She is refusing to let him see his kids. Because of the way she ran to a battered womens shelter ,she has full custody and total say-so in the visitations. He can't afford to hire a lawyer,but needs serious legal help. If there is anyone in california that has any info that might help us out.Not seeing the kids is killing both of us. I have four of my own ,so I understand how important it is for a child to see both parents.

4/21/04
jeffery.kiech@eglin.af.mil
I am a 26 year old father of four. Two of my boys live in Arkansas and I am unable to see them. Thier mother and her family have refused me any rights. Because Arkansas is still in the "old way" of doing things I stand little to no chance of even getting visitation rights. Not to mention her father has a judge in his back pocket. I am looking for a lawyer in Arkansa that specializes in Family law that is willing to put in long hours. Monmey ios no objest. I just want to see my boys, and because I am in the military i am unable to leave and go to Araknsas often. My current lawywer took my money and caused me to go default on a the child support issue. Please if there anyone who can help email me at Jeffery.kiech@eglin.af.mil

4/17/04
timc_33@yahoo.com
how to get paper severd to mother if she is runing

4/17/04
aaronsmith691@yahoo.com
hope some one can help me

4/14/04
eli02@yahoo.com
I just want to say that your site is really cool.I like it a lot. Thanks. By the way I recommend you to go to SingleParents Matcher.com. This site is good too. Good luck everybody!

4/12/04
jdayle83@hotmail.com
My ex wife and I have had a pretty good relationship since the divorce. We have a two and a half year old daughter, and she has two daughters who are older who also think of me as daddy. She has been in a bad relationship for two plus years. The man is abusive to her, and the children, especially my daughter. I turned him in last year for hitting my daughter in the face, which left the entire left side of her face bruised for a week. The sheriffs dept. was unable to prove that he did it, though I know he did. Now my Ex wife has informed me that she is getting married to this man this week, dispite breaking up with him two months ago, and she tells me at the end of may, she and the kids will be moving to Arkansas, over 1000 miles away from me. I am dumbfounded by her poor judgement! She has asked the court for permission to move, and I am currently filing a counter motion for a change of custody of my daughter! Money is a big issue! I have the $2000 for the initial retainer, but if the cost goes much higher, I'm not sure if I can come up with it in time! Is there any help available financially? And what can I do to try to protect my duaghters from this looser?

4/10/04
STARBRIGHTCLEANING@msn.com
I am happy for all the dads that want to be in their childrens lives. My dad raised me since i was 2 months old. Now i have custody of my 20 month twin daughters.

4/9/04
rgdadio@hotmail.com
Please visit www.cnbp.info if you're in Iowa or surrounding states. We're working to change the system! Children Need Both Parents!

4/6/04
jencar23@msn.com
Hi , I have been with my boyfriend for 2 yrs now. He has tired his hardest to see his daughter.

4/4/04
jaredmelissa2001@yahoo.com
I need help! My Wife and I are not getting along I have two daughters and I want save my marrige.

3/30/04
badnewstrucker2003@yahoo.com
my daughter ran away from home to be with her boyfriend. she is 14 and he is 18. we recovered her but she wants to be with him so bad and i took her out of state so she could try to get over him and she cant . thats all she talks about and i dont know what to do or what to say to her. should i let them see each other or keep them apart if anyone has any answers please email me and let me know.

3/28/04
Houge16_@MSN.COm
i just want to see what u have to offer here. I am currently going through court to get joint custody and visitation with my 7year old son

3/22/04
erica_316@yahoo.com
I am a college student in california and for my socialogy project, I have chosen to write about father involvent during pregnancy. I just want to know basic question toward a woman being pregnant and the mans feelings towards it. If anyone is interested in answering a few question, please email me asap. Thanks

3/3/04
mugu@yahoo.com
i love this siteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

3/3/04
gregory@clministries.com
It would be greeat if iowa was a true state that really cared about the fathers (DADS) and not take a womans word over the fathers. I could use real help as well. dhs has to much power and the laws for fathers that really want to be with their children suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

2/27/04
freechat@mail.com
Thanks! Enjoed the time on your site! Sincerly yours, Bilder

2/25/04
helentheriault@hotmail.com
I absolutely sympathize with any man who cannot see his children....what I do not understand is my son's father who wants nothing to do with him at all.

2/21/04
jdjraceway@yahoo.com
i think this is a very great web site

1/30/04
jnewland14@hotmail.com
HELP! I dont know what else to do!!!

1/26/04
asmith@yahoo.com
All of you need to learn how to spell....

1/21/04
Grdian50@aol.com
I currently live in Dallas,TX and have a beautiful daughter in Louisville, KY. I'm desperate to find a lawyer who can consult how I can get better/any rights being in another state and also possible custody (partial) who can represent me being in TX. $$$ negotiable.

1/16/04
TUTU2MUCH@YAHOO.COM
I'M TRYING TO FIND MY SON FATHER. MY SON WHO IS 13 YEARS OLD NOW WOULD LOVE TO JUST MEET HIM.(NO STRINGS ATTACHED) UNLESS HE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO KNOW HIS SON BETTER. HIS FATHER'S NAME IS VINCENT POE - LAST SEEN IN ST.LOUIS MO. ALMOST 14 YEARS AGO,HE USED TO WORK ON THE MCDONALD'S RIVER BOAT IN 1988 OR 1989 HE SHOULD BE ABOUT 33 OR 34 YEARS OLD NOW. WE LIVED AT 1318 GATY IN EAST ST. LOUIS IL.THEN ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APPRECIATED

1/14/04
Tazz602@zoominternet.net
I am new to this site. I would appreciate any advise ya'll have. Thanks!!

12/30/03
marabukhader@msn.com
I need some help please see my help me too much to retype but i have a rich boyfriend who is ruining me financially by filing frivilous motion through my ex-wifes attorney he hasnt even been around that long and knows nithing of our situation.

12/20/03
richardd08@aol.com
i need the best lawyer in the state of kentucky.my little girl is 13 and her mom tells her that she don't have to come over my house, know after 1 year she won't come over,she came over all the time.her mother is pulling her away from me. I NEED HELP.what is the law on joint custudy.

12/18/03
Wilderfull@aol.com
Thank you for having a place that men can come for help.

12/17/03
roedevoo@hotmail.com
Greetings Everyone, If anybody needs some straight answers and/or advice, do not hesitate to write an e-mail. You will always get a response, no matter what the question(s) is (are), or will be.. Can I be in service to you? Best regards, Rob (from the Netherlands / Holland..) E-mail adres: roedevoo@hotmail.com

12/16/03
jb55359@msn.com
Great thing that is going on here.Guys need support too.No pun intended.

12/12/03
tina_664@yahoo.com
i am here to seek advice from anyone willing to give it.

12/4/03
mrehenry@yahoo.com
I need help dealing with maximus child support agency in atlanta GA, and a good attorney

11/7/03
redevil187@aol.com
hey my name is tim i was told 2 weeks ago that my girlfriend is pregnant and her and her dad are already dicided the date of the abortion its tommorow the 8 of november, i am feeling so depressed right now. i am one of these people who have said they could never see the point in suicide but right now it looks good, it would take away my pain and that would be great.but im a man and i tink that would be the pussy way out, i want this child so badly but tommorow i loose my first unborn child that just sounds so wrong but now it accutally make since. i mean thats the only context i can put it in unborn child this hurts worse than any thing in the world and if i could have the child without her participation i would but i can so im out of luck, one dead two scared forever not one dead one wounded how do people think the fathers of these children fee. its what it is it feels like some one is hurting your children

11/5/03
randrfla@aol.com
I would like to hear from anyone that has or had a problem with NJ child support enforcement.

10/20/03
KJAKEELER@AOL.COM
THIS IS MY MOTHERS ADDRESS BUT I USE IT.PLEASE SEE MY HELP ME MEMO

10/16/03
cjluv2000@yahoo.com
glad to find this web hope someone out there can help me through this and hope i can help others

10/15/03
steven_duggan2003@yahoo.co.uk
sorry the two last things have been wrong as my email is the one above not the others.What i am saying is what is in the last message but made a few mistakes as i was typing to fast. i am not doing this as a joke i am being serious hope someone can help! steven. sorry about the spelling.!!

10/15/03
steven_duggan@yahoo.co.uk
sorry ment STEP DAD !!!!!!!!??? i type so fast

10/15/03
steven_duggan@yahoo.co.uk
hi iam 16 , from scotland and so talented in music ! i HATE my dad very much !! and would love to have a spet dad aged 30 to 39 from the USA ! iam studing music at uinversity 1st year! and play the violin and piano .I also have won 1st in contest in scotland .i just some can help me out!!! before its to late . Must have light greem eyes and cool intrests.thanks

10/13/03
www.sierramadretraders.com
He would rather travel & have fun then pay child support. His name is Don Sorensen. Email him at these links & remind him how important it is to pay child support. sierra_madre_traders@yahoo.com www.sierramadretraders.com Srngravity@aol.com

10/13/03
shawnnabear@outlookexpress.com
hi im not a dad or not even a man but i want to ask you guys sence your dads. My dad left me about 1 year ago he abandon me and my mom and brother! he would yell at me and scream and try to hit me but i always done the same back cause he has no right to do that to me so i done it back to him. He found somebody on the computer and talk to the person on the internet on the phone to! my dad never really was the type of dad who would love you for who u r or wht u r! or wht u wanna be when u grow up. Then one day he said he was going to MI for a job interview but he was going there to se the person he meant online! he lied to all of us and i new all along what he was really up to!! i new about the phone i new abut the internet i new about everything he done!!!! He was a scik man he got all this crap and pills and blamed me that i got tham! he would go on all this nasty websites and blame tham on me and how can i go on them at 4:00am in the morning when i have school! he never calls or writes or does nothing!! Do you think that i made him leave cause i yelled alot at him? Do you think i should have told someone that i new wht he was doing? please emial thank you shawnna age 14

10/12/03
rn22113@aol.com
IM 44 WHEN I GOT DEVORCED I WAS 32 THIS IS WHEN I PAD OFF WHAT 15,000 IN BACK PAYMENTS. THAT WAS FOR 5 YEARS.BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THE DA.OFFICE WITH MY EX. I TOLD THE DA THAT PAYING HER 250.00 A WEEK CASH.AND MY EX COMFRERMED THAT THIS WAS TRUE. HES SAID THAT DID NOT COUNT FOR WHAT WAS DO SHE WAS BACK WITH HER PERENTS AND GETING WELFAR PLUS NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR A THING.WHY DID THE DA ALSO HAVE PAY BACK 360.00 PLUS SURPORT OF 360.00

10/10/03
TMacDad73@aol.com
I have been fighting to be a part of my daughters life for 8years. Only 3 states have mandatory joint custody! That is appalling, and demonstrates the bias against fathers. If anyone has any helpful information or advice please contact me.

10/9/03
bunappeal@hotmail.com
I have a friend that is getting ready to sign divorce papers. His soon to be ex wife is stating that Michigan Law says that even though he is taking care of all of the medical insurance and making large support payments, that he will have to pay 90% of medical and dental bills. Is this true? Anyone have experience with this? Please email me if you know.

9/25/03
iammarino7@sbcglobal.com
I am a mother of twins my husband I feel needs a friend to talk to about our boys I belong to SCMOTC mother of multiples clubs is there a club for men like we mothers have?we live in Ca.

9/25/03
ponygirl1970@yahoo.com
I salute the good fathers out there. You are very hard to come by. I do have a question for some of you... My daughter is almost 13, her father and I have been divorced since she was 13 months old. He continues to use her as a pawn to get to me. Several years ago, I quit letting it get to me emotionally, however he has more money and keeps me struggling. I don't understand, he is making our daughter miserable. The money I spend on court fees for little things, could be used to better her. He knit picks one silly thing after another, "I want to split her birthday" , " I want her every spring break", etc. We live about 15 miles form each other and I have told her she is welcome to go visit anytime she would like. He has every other weekend, 1 night per week, summer visit, Christmas visit, I haven't re-evaluated child support since our divorce. What can I do to get along with him? I try and nothing seems to work. She is beginning to hate him for constantly stirring things up. Any suggestions????

9/19/03
medeiros26@shaw.ca
Divorce is an ugly monster that murders the hearts of young children and devours the soul of a loving father.

9/17/03
guy@mugu.com
Please you should note that i have visited this site,i mean my fellows. Guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

8/27/03
reply2003@ukr.net
It's realy good site! Best wishes, Eric, http://posters.diallink.net

8/7/03
estaven44@yahoo.com
if i turn over all legal rights to amy child do i have to pay child support

8/5/03
ALA OWERRI@ABA.COM
I PASS HERE FROM NIGER,ABA

8/5/03
j33thro@msn.com
I am a displaced father that fears my daughter might be sufering from parental allianation syndrom

7/25/03
rbriggs@shabangexhibits.com
Hello my name is Ron and I too am in the same situation. I would like to hear what kind of advice you have gotten back. I do not make the same as I did in the other state. I pay my child support and plus more if I have it and I try everything to stay in contact with my child but I am not getting anything in return like photos, phone calls, letters. I feel like I am the bank only and she has no responsibility to make this as smooth as it should be. I feel if I am paying my full child support I should at least get some hellos out of it from my kid. Now she is asking for more and threading to call the DA and have my wage taking out of the my company each week. Need help in what can I do to make this a happy going environment for both my child and I.

7/22/03
palerider461@msn.com
As much as I miss my daughters. They live with their mother in Maryland and I live in Ohio. I will never stop loving them and I know that they will never stop loving me. Remember that all you Daddy's out there our babies still love us and we love them. But I also know that doesn't stop the pain of not having them with us. God bless us all.

7/1/03
heyjud6855@aol.com
Iam a mother of 3 sons.we need to get together and change the law.there is good fathers out there.That are getting the raw end of the court system. what about these dead beat moms that uses the children .Uses the child support for her drug hadit.AND the court system just slaps her hand and tells her not to do it again. and then she does it again over and over again.And CPS knows about it and they do the same .Nothing . It is not fare to the children or the father.

6/7/03
steveb2ld@yahoo.com
I really hate the Friend of the Court. They say they have the best interest of the child in mind, but yet they don't enforce visitation with the fathers until you scream bloody murder at them,WHY? They sure come after the fathers when we're late with our payments. I think the F.O.C. needs a kick in the pants, or dress, 'cause it sure is always for the mom's view, at least here in Houghton County of MI.

6/2/03
Haubitze1947@aol.com
i want to thank the jersey court system for holding me hostage for the past 11 yrs. 9 of which i havent seen my daughter although i continue to pay. not the mention that my ex is married for a 3rd time to an ex friend. is there no escape im 56 & need to retire. my ex/wife uses the court sysyem vary well to her advantage. again thanks new jersey for castrating us divorced dads

5/29/03
btmacneal@aol.com
i am a proud father of a beautiful 5 year old girl. Her mom decided she wanted to divorce me, to "find her identity". Her plan was to up and leave with our daughter. I found the best lawyer in the state of Ohio, and i am now proud to say that i won custody of my little angel. There is a God!

5/29/03
roysolis@pro_linefreight.com
need help or advice on back pay child support

5/23/03
aydicee@yahoo.com
i'm from NC and i have a question...

5/16/03
MOM6502POP@AOL.COM
JUST A GOOD DAD THAT LOVES HIS BOYS AND PAYS HIS CHILD SUPORT

5/6/03
hilling1@cox.net
Do you know about Proud Dads and my book "The Man Who Would Be Dad" Capital Books? For more info log on to www.prouddads.com. Below is a brief bio. Sincerely, Hogan Hilling Proud Dads Founder/Author Hilling has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show, ABC's Fathers and Sons Documentary, and NBC's The Other Half. He was a featured speaker at the 2003 Lamaze International Conference. In 1995, Hilling received the California Courage to Care Award for helping to strengthen California families. He lives in Irvine, California with his wife, Tina, and three boys, Grant, 15, Wesley, 13, and Matthew, 9.

5/5/03
billgreen_3@msn.com
This is the best site i have been to that seem to help me.

5/5/03
charles.lewis@gmac.com
My daughter will be 5 years of age and I have only seen her three times. For the past year and a half, I have been paying child support through the courts. Lack of income made it impossible to appear in court out of my city, as a result the highest amount is deducted from my checks! At the time I felt as if I would have more of a chance to see my daughter, so I never argued about how much the courts were taking even if I was struggling. The only time that my daughters mother would let me talk to her was if I had any money to send her. She has restricted all of my rights as a father and it hurts. She is married with two other children with my daughter being the oldest, and she calls her husband dad! Even when my money has been deducted,She has a problem with visitations, saying your child does not know you. How can my child know who I'am and that I want to be a part of her life when her mother dictates everything. Getting an attorney is not an option (lack of income) and talking to the mother is not working.These problems have been going on for 5 years and now we face a new one. I moved to North Carolina with my fiance and my daughters mother do not like her,as a result, I'm still being denied visitation rights. When I asked to speak to my daughter, She said "I have to explain to her that she has to fathers before she speaks to you, she does'nt know who you are. I'm crying out for help,if there is someone that can help me please let me know.

4/24/03
mandome1@emailaccount.com
hello im just looking for information on how to give up parental rights and without paying child suport. Is it even posible? I live in the state of California. please help.

4/24/03
LostMoto@yahoo.com
Well Let Me start by saying First time Here, And finally starting to realize What a financial mess I've created. For myself , I've Been ignoring my mail and all family service related Letters for about ten years. they've garnished my wages for years and all Tax returns . Which I knew was going to happen anyway. What I'am looking for is a Fathers Orginization that Might be will help me with a Few matters. I'am Not wealthy and have A Enormous amount of back child support. Signed, OverWhelmed

4/9/03
mikeamycluck@hotmail.com
need help to change my support amount and to be able to see them again, need to know how to do this

4/9/03
waltwood2@yahoo.com
You are providing a REAL service to others. Please make a correction in the email address of Walter Wood author of CONFESSIONS OF AN ABSENTEE FATHER. Walter's email is waltwood2@yahoo.com (It needs the number "2" after "waltwood". Thank you. Walt Wood

4/7/03
evalinetyler@sbcglobal.net
man can yo help me find a person with good personal or not

4/3/03
sixkids477@yahoo.com
been on both sides of the coin and i know how the court can srew both parents. So if you live in Ny Depending on the problem i may be able to help with some imfo for ya .

3/28/03
malevolent@qwest.net
I'm glad to see that most of you are active loving Fathers and hope that you will all contuinee to love and atleast try to be a part of your child(rens) life(ves) may you all be the best parents you can

3/22/03
xanthanotus@hotmail.com
Hi I�m a year 12 student (in Australia), and as part of my HSC society and culture class, I much perform a personal interest project........... mine is on dads (past, present and future, including stay at home dads, and dads who didnt) as well as public opinions on them.........I would greatly appreciate it if you would be able to reply to this email.......and answer a few question.......every thing will remain completely confidential, this will allow me to gain a better idea of why men are choosing to stay at home / not stay home........and how they feel about their positions. Thanks for you time. Bec Davis P.S. I despretly need your help...so please take the time to email me...., i want to be able to give a just and concise representation of fathers and to do this i need replys, which i havent been able to get that many of, so please dont delete this........ xanthanotus@hotmail.com

3/16/03
jambulaya2003@yahoo.com
need information on back child support

3/4/03
edservicemaster2@aol.com
Hello; I have 4 kids the oldest is on her own she is 19.We lived in Fl. all our 20 years marriage then last year we decided to move to Pa. where my wife is from, but within 3 months she started to cheat on us and within six months she wants a divorce and lets me to just get out and leave. Is it possible to take the kids and some things and move back to Fl. and file for custody and divorce with out getting in any trouble. Right now we there is no papers of any kind not we are not even seperated . PLease help,what can we do and is it safe to go back to our friends and family and all our roots in Florida.

2/16/03
Chris.landers@verizon.net
Fathersonline has been very useful.... Thank you. Chris

2/13/03
jrgasser@earthlink.net
I got custody of my son when he was six. Since then he has been wetting the bed. I found out that his mother forced him to stay in bed and not leave the bed. He was also abused and neglected by his mother and his step father. He has been condition to wet him self at night. I have tried going to the docters, see a counsler, bed wetting alarm,pull ups and so on. But the only way he can stop the bed wetting his to not see his mother. She still does the same stuff when he lived with her. He gets to do what ever he wants with her. I do not know what to do anymore my wife and I are at are wits end. Help!

2/11/03
paul@greatdanepetroleum.com
I am a father of three great kids,plus two step kids. Two of "my" kids are from a previous marriage and one "girl 7" with my current marriage. One of my kids from my previous marriage "girl 14" lives with us,and one of my step kids is in collage and the other " boy 14" lives with us. To sum it up I have my Daughter 14, Her Son 14 and our Daughter 7 living with my wife and I. Sorry if this was confusing. We are a blended family and are coming apart at the seams. We can not function as a family and I know I am heading for yet another divorce. This is not why I'm here. I need help to help my nephew with a daughter "15" who has dated a boy "19" agaist her fathers wishes. He tried to stop them and now his daughter has tried to commit suicide. I live in South Florida, Ft. Lauderdale area. What can I do to help them?

2/1/03
jat@tyler.net
What does the Bible say about women having childrern out of marriage

1/30/03
lowrydr@aol.com
hello today

1/26/03
johnevans@tds.net
HOW DO I GET A COPY OF VISITATON RIGHTS IN OKLAHOMA.

1/26/03
johnevans@tds.net
I have a 6 year old daughter and I live near Tulsa Ok and she live in Enid,Ok my xgirl freind has custodial. I have court order visitaton. but any time the mother wants to changes my weekend she dose and keeps me from seeing my daughter,and the courts in Ok. just don't look at the father side of it. the father in OK.has no rights it allways the mother side the judges takes how come the father allways get the short end is there some one out there that cares about the child and father I pay my surport like order,every mouth on time.thanks Johnny

1/26/03
kcmadman59@aol.com
she use the kids to control me

1/23/03
Andre@attcanada.ca
child support robs fathers of suporting our children

1/14/03
jason230@bellsouth.net
I just found out that my ex had our baby, I'v tried to talk and mail her stuff with a no response. I want too take care of my baby and it seems like the system only works for the women. I was told that she put me down on the birth record and that was all I found out. I dont know what the laws are for us fathers who want to help raise our kids.There's a piece of me out there and I want to see it. please help me

1/13/03
FOORTRUCKS2000@YAHOO.COM
FEEL BETTER JUST FOR TELLING SOMEONE OTHER THAN JUDGE

1/12/03
mushdoc@excite.com
i,ve had 3 1/2 years of hell handed out by men hating women at cps .my rights and my childrens rights have been abused far to much.i must do somthing!complying with state paid persons does not work.

1/12/03
miss_tweety162006@yahoo.com
hello,this website is ok but for those "father" who don't see or pay suport don't us the good father's who do.and u sit up in here bicthing about no rights well mother did not get up apon them selfs and get nocked up.i am a 15 1/2yr.old girland my sister is 17. i a have not seen my father once seence we left becouse on my father raped my mother and was abuse of person.i am not saying all men are like that but some are.so don't try to so push it off on women who intil the the 80's could not vote we still make less money than men.right at this time my father does not pay suport my sister and i have small health probloms.my grndfather(my mother's dad)is tiwce the man some men are.my step father has step up the the plate and is suporting us(my mother works too)my step father and i don't get a long all the time.this is a good website for good father's like my grandfather was! goodbye amanda

1/3/03
azbe@yifan.net
nicewebsite

12/31/02
surwalk0530@aol.com
Missing my childeren,

12/18/02
monapops@hotmail.com
Multi-State users!! Why not use as multi-state web search? The combined resources of users, if POOLED, could result in a very good search engine. I'm trying something different, outside local Bureaucracy. Searching for DEADBEAT parent. DOES ANYONE reside in OCALA FL?

12/7/02
xcom1@ozconnect.net
It's great to see that there is help like this for fathers, but, I think the ads that your running need to be changed. My six year old daughter now thinks that she can't play footy any more because she only has a Mum & not a Dad. She thinks I can't do all the things that a Dad can. She only started thinking this way after seeing one of your ads. Could you PLEASE change your ads for all us single Mum's with Fatherless children. My daughter has been really horrible to me in the last few weeks & then I saw the ad she was trying to tell me about the other day ( it has a little boy talking about why you have to have a Dad ). The initiative is great, the ads have caused nothing but drama between me & my daughter. I hope you seriously consider this, I wonder how many other kids out there have reacted to that ad the way my girl did?

12/5/02
huestisn@bellsouth.net
I just wanted to add that I really believe that this site is helpful for those dads that need advice or just to vent. . . I have posted my friend's problem and welcome any advice or just thoughts on the situation. Once again I am female and have a son (still in relationship with father and all is good there) but I feel like there are so many fathers out there denied the opportunity that they deserve just because the system usually sides with the female only on the basis that they gave birth, which I find wrong. I worked for a company where we made good money for our area and there were so many females that would use child support to pay for an expensive car or whatnot. . and use the system to obtain anything and everything that they could, while the fathers were out there working mulitple jobs and struggling to make ends meet in order to provide for children they were denied by either the mother or the system. I have been hard working since I was 17 and now being 25, I know that kids aren't cheap by any means, but strongly disagree with how females use the system against the dads for their benefit. I wish that I could say that they weren't female, because some of them are a disgrace. . . I just wanted to thank you for what you are doing to help these fathers who obviously care about their kids and aren't given the opportunity that they deserve. Even if their situation doesn't improve after visiting your site, atleast they know they aren't the only ones out there and they know they can have someone to talk to. From a hard-working mom and loving mom, thank you. And I wish all good luck. . . and hope that one day these fathers are seen for who they really are and can one day be happy like each and every one of them deserve. Thank you.

12/3/02
bennomartin2001@yahoo.com.au
I just lost my family through divorce. I was a 'good' divorce(if there is such a thing), no courts, no arguments. My wife just wanted out(she had her reasons). But it is the loss of my family that is very confusing. I have five beautiful children: Joel, my step-son (14), Jesse (9), Brianna (6), Grace (4) and Shannon (2 - boy).

11/22/02
monapops@hotmail.com
I have searched this web via links, mentors, dad to dad, ideas, what works, help links, etc. I see horror stories from NY judicial system, re: NAZI/JEW relationship. Is it really that BAD!! Would like some input on legal system. Would appreciate case law history.

11/20/02
dbborck@powercom.net
I've tried serveral times to register, I keep getting the message OOPS! we can't verify your e-mail, check your spelling. well I did, and I still can't get on, Whats up with that?

11/20/02
corms@telstra.com.au
I've been divorsed for 3 years. I have a 15 yo girl, a 13 yo son and a 4 yo daughter. My ex lives 4000km away. I pay child support every month (never miss) and I've seen my kids 3 times in 3 years. I'm paying air fares for them to come see me in January. The first time they've been to my home. My 4 yo is not comming over, because mum and "new dad" wont allow it.... I can bitch and moan, but you know what? It makes no difference, because we are men. By the way the reason we split up is because I was a battered husband. And the reason she moved so far away was..."To make it hard for you, you C**T" word for word, gents. Life's hard enough without us being hard on ourselves. Be brave men.

11/14/02
simchip6@hotmail.com
good to see sights like this .. we men have right to are kids too.

11/9/02
hippshaker@wideopenwest.com
I am a divorced father with children living hours away from me. I get them for visitation every other weekend. I make the drive for pick up and drop off. I pay a large amount in child support and am left living on next to nothing. The Lenawee Court Systems are not working for me at all. I petition every time visition doesn't happen due to their mother not showing up, or making other plans for them. This is just a few things that are going on. I need help, finacially and with court concerns that are not resalved.

11/8/02
smoker_1@marihuana.com
I was told that I will never see my daughter again because of my padt I have been fighting it for two years. I have spent well ove 75 grand and all I got to show for it is a picture of her

11/7/02
monapops@hotmail.com
I'm a new computer user, searching for info, but have found interesting problems on this website. I am not an attorney, BY ANY MEANS, just a father, and grandfather, seeking, (NOW), vengenace against my EX-wife for ruining my, and my childrens lives. Just an "Outhouse" lawyer learning to play the legal games. I've learned just enough to be "slapped down" by the legal profession. Maybe I can help some, but NOT ALL. Just an older DAD learning from past experience & new.

11/1/02
bob411040
ny son is pAYING CHILD SUPPORT BUT WE CANT SEE HER HELP/

10/28/02
unicornlover67@hotmail.com
My ex-boyfriend and I have been split up for going on four years now and we are both married to other people for two years now. When we split up he was cheating on me and then he started abusing me. I got custidy of our then 6 year old daughter. It has been nothing but hell since then. He is a truck driver and his wife works at a local company. It seems like every six months I have to worry about him or someone he knows calling child abuse on me and my husband. Every time we go into court and he doesn't like the outcome he calls or has someone call. He also has child abuse charges against him for the abuse of my son from a different marriage. We have gone to court three time so he can try and get custody or modified visitations. We have joint custody. His visitations are 2 days a wk for 4 hours a day; every other weekend; 4 wks in the summer; and every other holiday. This is more time then most fathers get and he is not satisfied with this. What gets me is when he says that I don't allow him enough time with our daughter now 10 but yet he makes plans for him and his wife during my daughters visit times. There have been times where she spends it with his mother; his WIFE'S EX-HUSBAND; or the like. Just recently he told my daughter that she might not be able to come over there anymore because of something that happened. She was also told that if she did come over there that they would not buy her anything when they did her step-sisters. My daughter has been through an emotional rollercoster and I have a feeling it is not over with yet. She called me on a Saturday at 9:30 pm and said "Mom I want to come home." I told her that she could not because of the court ordered visitations. He has even went to the capital to loby for fathers rights during a visitation time and did not inform me of him being gone. She had to spend the time with others instead of her father. He went there and talked about all the money he was spending trying to gain custody and he failed to mention that he was the one who started all this. I have never asked him for more child support then he has been ordered to pay. He refuses to help me with her school cloths and school supplies. He says "That is what you get child support for." I agree so I don't ask him any more for this stuff. My daughter can't even bring her birthday or christmas presents home that she receives. He keeps asking her to ask me to send things over for her to have over there but her step-sisters take the stuff and take it to their dad's house and leave it there so she doesn't have it. If I can't ask him to help me with the stuff she needs for school then does he have the right to ask me to send stuff over there for her? I think not. He only pays 383.64 a month in child support, and yet he expects me to furnish all the stuff she needs there also. I have a good attorney that I have had since this all started. He is on his second one since 1999 because he did not like that he was not getting what he wanted from the court system. He keeps playing the court system to try and make my life hell and my daughters life also. She comes to me and says "Mom I love my dad but..." He also has my daughter so afraid of him that it is not funny. It is kind of ironic that I have to wait until he puts a mark/bruise on her body before I can have him go through counsling. In the state I live in we have the parenting class called "Child in the Middle" and all parents divorsing have to go through it but since we were never married then he doesn't have to go through it. I have and it was interesting. My daughter is his only child and he chooses others over her all the time. I do not have hard feeling against him any more. I just want what is best for my daughter. She is the only one that counts in this matter. How can I get him to see this.

10/27/02
jeffreymgn@aol.com
Any dads in Australia want to swap ideas, stand up to the nazi feminist and talk about fatherhood.his is a good idea (FOL).

9/27/02
cen5491@aol.com
Can anyone give me any information on how joint custody child support works? Is this such a thing as a father paying child support if custody is split 50/50? Thanks!

9/23/02
dllperretta@aol.com
my husbands ex wife is a dead beat mom... however, nobody in the state of vermont has ever made her pay!!!!! she has even stole her own sons probate account to use for snorting up her nose!!! it was to be used for extraordinary medical expenses for her son and guess what she usd it for her own perscrption drug hait... how extraordinary is that??? she lost custody because of her bad habits and now five years later, she decides to get attention for herself,(bcause she is now trying to gain custody and she is getting caugt inall the lies and bull sit).. why can't somebody help these wonderful dads like my husband???

9/4/02
slam2006@yahoo.com
i need your guestbook on women, young boys and young girls .inposible get back to me all the best salam slam

9/4/02
hhbayard@yahoo.com
I truly appreciate the role that we man have available to us as fathers. We can make a difference, if we choose to. We live in difficult times for men, with the gay movement (creating the idea that men have to be gay to be creative or caring), womens movement (creating a very hostil inviornment between the genders), disrespect for the role of the father in the media (it amazes me how the father is put down in so many ways, ie the Sears commercial, implying that a man can't handle the raising of children, not even for one day), no wonder young men don't know where they stand or what to do in relationships or with their lives. It is critical that we are able to talk about what role men should take today. It is critical that we remain strong (with out being over bearing and being and asshole), uplift the image of manhood by what we do on a daily basis. It is important that we do the right things, not selfish acts that only benifit us, but all those in our family and those around us. We have all the power in our hearts to make this world a better place, by the example we set.. so it is time to change, communicate with each other, (this is an excellent way to do so, via this site). Be stong my fellow men, be right minded my friends, be honest and we will overcome this difficult time for men.. our son's and daughters and wives deserve it...

9/2/02
striza@sc.rr.com
Hello!

8/31/02
colspeaks@aol.com
congratulations for taking the initiative and setting up this web site.I thought ,talked and procrastinated about a similar venture but never got c/literate enough to do qany thing about it.More strength to you and to the children abused by mum's boyfriends . Col Levy

8/27/02
blackroad53@msn.com
I am a twenty five year old single father with two girls of my own. im employed by the us military I have a sister that was violently rapped and serverly injured she became pregnant as a result. she went through with the pregnacy and gave birth too a girl. her mother / my sister was mentaly disabled after birth unable to take proper care of the child. at the time of the rape and birth I was in Korea leaving her to really on friends. instead of giving the child up for adoption she let her friend keep the child until she was able too safely handle a child . now the friend is trying to take her child away claiming child abandonment. I want my neice she is still part of my family. I would like to adopt my neice. PLEASE tell what i can do?

8/27/02
edhedberg@netzero.com
Now I know how the Jews felt in Nazi Germany by the way fathers are treated by NY Family Court.

8/26/02
conwayb@kpunet.net
Ok maybe I shouldn't be here being I am a women.. and a single mother.. I agree with some of what you all say..but not all of it..You are all being way to harsh or some of you are.. Not all of us women bash men or fathers.... as for child support and the comment made about all women who gets it is somewhat stupid is so wrong. I get child support, and it helps alot with bills and stuff.. My sons father chooses to not be involved in his life, so its not me keeping my son from him..anyway.. I believe instead of fathers or mothers rights..it should be parents rights...well you all take care..bye Xalena831

8/20/02
drumanimal55@hotmail.com
Wow, I have just spent the last hour reading the Guestbook. My wife of 18 years had become an alcholic and I was taking on all the guilt, pain,etc. but she left us for the boyfriend 3days before my eldest girls 13 birthday and two years later she passed away 3 days after my youngest girls birthday, all time both girls and my self have grown together sooo welland the only thing I can offer is give you children the one thin you can't buy.....TIME. Love the site, if any one wants to please contact me.

8/15/02
vichalot@yahoo.com
i have a question if you dont mind. are children not made from half of both parents? i see alot of guys go to court and they always get the shaft putting it nicely! ive seen where women have come to court and admit that they are high while they are in court, admit they are cheating, they have criminal records, and they cat keep a job. they go aginst men who have clean records, test clean for drugs, and have good stable jobs. the outcome is always the same they raise the guys child saport and tell them to come back in six months where it is the same thing agin! shouldnt the children go to the parent that would give them the better life instead of the parent who only did what the good lord made her to do by carrying the child till its born? isnt thier something we can do to give fothers the chance to be fathers instead of being someone who not only pays his bills but has to pay thier x wifes bills as well!!! i am married and have two kidds my wife cant work do to illness, my youngest was born a preme, my oldest has ahsma, and i have ahsma along whith severr leg problems. im telling you this because with all the problems i have we survive on my check and im only a machinest so im not making great money! so why do men have to pay so much i can see if thier is a reason such as abuse. but why dont they make them split the time between parents equaly and make the one who has the kids saport them while they have them and split bills like medical bills!! thanks for letting me get ihis of my chest! sincerly Matthew D. Palevich

8/15/02
binary_buzz@yahoo.com
i love my son

8/13/02
queenpinkus@hotmail.com.au
i just want to say, (no offence to anyone, yhis is based to the creators of fathers online) that your tv ads suck! me and my little brother have grown up without fathers and the ad where the little boy says "you need a dad cause he teaches you thing really upset me and my brother mostly my brother, he is 10 years old.and when he seen that ad for the first time he said, "who needs a dad? i dont i can do eveything i want to do and my dad didnt teach me any of it." that comeing from a 10 year old made my eyes water, cause i taught my brother most of the things he knows and im his sister. i just want to let you know that you dont need a dad to learn how to play soccer or any thing else cause sisters and mums can do it too. so please dont think that dads are everything, cause my brother hates his dad and you know what so do i.

8/9/02
eileenfe@net-tech.com.au
While I applaud your efforts to support fathers, I must register my protest at the TV ad I witnessed last night. I know fathers are important anyone with any sense does, however I am afraid of the upset your ad may cause to children who have been deserted by fathers [please don't tell me it is not done - my childrens father chose not to see my daughters and now my granddaughters father has chosen to live interstate and they miss him terribly] - I fear their reaction and how my daughter will handle the upset this ad could cause

7/28/02
franksbiro@hotmail.com
The problem that I see with this whole thing is that "Parents" of children are not Divorced in a Court of Law, with an "Impartial Jury". No evidence is "required" to slander a "Parent (Mother or Father) to the Court. If, "for instance", a Mother said that "the Father" cheated on her, the Court would believe her even if she were lying, regardless of no evidence. Our "whole Court System" needs a severe change. I realize that this "responsibility of going to court" would cost more time in Court, but it is the only way to solve the problem of who is at fault in the Marriage. This "NO Fault Divorce State" situation is the problem, because someone is always at "FAULT". In fact, there would be less Divorces in this country if people were responsible/accounable for their actions. This would also bring down the overall cost's incurred by this country in the "long run", and would also bring "Truth to Justice again. Otherwise, it's "Taxation Without Representaiton" plain and simple!

7/24/02
damianp@radiuspower.com
Just starting out.Need a good lawyer to fight for my rights. Hope to keep my boy's. Don't know what to do or where to turn. Don't want this, but force to do it. HELP!

7/24/02
dematas@onebox.com
need emotional support & guidance from fresh / recent "just" divorced. i need to whine and a shoulder and input on visitations and bullying on orders of protection "intimidations" + "arrests-threats" etc. what is allowable calling the kids whats not? what when she is not back in time for my pickups due to "unforseen circumstances" ahem traffic jams etc. what if i am not home yet and she drops kids off and leaves before i am there (teens) what about her coercion? "all" that i do (per her) is "illegal/ dispicable and deliberate" and "all" that she does is "unavoidable- innocent ok" and "dismissable" per her always one sided. anything can be done without fighting it? h e l p

7/23/02
brital162@optushome.com.au
I just found this site what a great place...used right this site could give men some real support they lack and make better children in the process...I wish all who visit here all the very best.......fathers today...grandfathers tomorrow

7/7/02
ktjournal@yahoo.com
My 2 young boys (and former step-daughter) now live in a broken home. Their Mother decided she was not satisfied with our marriage anymore, so everyone had to suffer as a result. It sure is easy to sit around and piss and moan about MY misfortunes, but one lesson I learned is that I am a big boy now and have to deal with it. The #1 most important thing is my kids. They deserve to be my primary focus. I wish some of the comments I read were more kid focused, and less �my ex is a witch and the court system sucks� focused. Suggestion 1: look up a program called A.C.T. (assisting children through transition). A Very good program to teach parents how to co-parent children through a split up and throughout the years to come. Every parent should take this course. Suggestion 2: If you are so displeased with the court system (or your case), focus your energy toward something that might make a difference. Like writing your congressperson or local gov�t. Maybe challenge the custody decision if you truly want your kids with you more I�d love to know the % of Fathers who are enraged over the child support they pay, and didn�t even challenge custody in the 1st place. I refused to be a weekend dad and fought for what I thought was best for my kids. It did cost me a lot of money, but in the end I ended up with a 50-50 agreement and don�t have to fork over 25% of my check, so I can provide a good home for my boys. I love to chat, gather info, and share my views with others out there. Remember � Children need Fathers. Being a father is a lifetime obligation to your children.

6/24/02
www.kennystang68@aol.com
i'm glad to see groups like ures who help fathers we need all the help we can get thank you

6/18/02
punkin_81@hotmail.com
My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 3 years. He has an 8 yr old son from a previous. We get him every weekend, and he always pays his child support. We both get along with her except for the fact that, other than the money, she doesn't really seem interested in being an active part of the childs life. She is totally dependent on everyone in her life except herself, to parent her child. Our problem with this is, if she doesn't enjoy the "mother routine" than why doesn't she just throw in the towel and let us have him? I would love nothing more than to have him with us constantly. Him and I have grown very close, and every time he's with us he expresses that he feels the same and wants to be with us. So, why doesn't she just give him to us? And for the very popular answer...$$$$$$$

6/18/02
rdirby@lynchburg.net
My father is not really involved in my life -- I long for a mentor, friend or father figure to talk, listen and to help me grow to be the very best father that I can be (if I am blessed with children)! I have a hole in my heart right now for somebody who is wise and caring. Thanks, Robbie

6/17/02
rvegas@zwallet.com
Knowing your Father is sometimes over rated. Be good to the people in your life who love you, and have taken care of you and always been there for you, even if they are NOT your "real" blood.

6/5/02
ktl@ccaol.com
i want to thank this service!!!!!!!!!

5/31/02
katnip_21f@yahoo.com
Just a comment about the anti-father advertising from JC Penney. If you haven't seen it at all, it show a child (or children) screaming, crying, and out of control while a disinterested or desperate father says "where is your mother". She's at the one-day sale, and the announcer says "don't worry dads, it's only one day". Any father, single or otherwise who sees this should be outraged! I know fathers who are ten times better parents than their female counterparts. Advertising such as this perpetuates false and outdated stereotypes about parenting and fathers. I have written to JC Penneys via their website (jcpenney.com) to express my concern about their poorly thought out ad campaign. I urge you all to do the same, for the sake of yourselves or someone you care about. If fathers are to seek equal treatment in the courts, they must strive for it on all other grounds as well.

5/31/02
lunagreyeyes@aol.com
I'm glad to see this web-site for fathers who actually want to be fathers.My ex is an alcoholic,he was abusive not only to me but to our son.I went to family court for two reasons:first to protect the children and second to get him the help he needs. I thought I was doing the right thing. After nine months of supervised visitation he gets caught smelling of alcohol at the same time he was petitioning the court for unsupervised visits.The childrens law gaurdian is a joke, this has turned into a circus and my children have no rights. they have a right to have a father who is sober and responsible, who will put thier needs before his own. He's not hurting me,thuogh he thinks he is.He's hurting his children and ultimatly himself.His children will someday see the truth about the man they hold so dear, and I'm honestly sorry for him when that day happens.HOORAY! for all you FATHERS!!!!!!!!!Any man can be a sperm donor, it takes a special man to a father.

5/29/02
Beth>pinkyp@aol.com
Child support is mad money for women-it's how we screw you & get screwed by other loser men. Women & liberals are controlling this country. We don't need real men. I'm banging my ex-husbands enemy. I'm going to do the same thing to this loser.

5/20/02
Joe Mendenbaum@aol.com
Your right this is not Nazi Germany so how come the Federal Govn't. allows states to violate father's civil rights & how come the Civil Rights Organizations haven't jumped on this violation?

5/18/02
Bruno
There should be no family courts or interference from the government on family matters, period.

5/18/02
ScrewLawyers@fiberia.com
All lawyers want to do is suck up to women like the wimps they are- they can't get a woman any other way that's why they became lawyers in the first place- losers

5/17/02
alcohenac@yahoo.com
NY Family Court are just bully collection agency- you need to get a spine & stand up for your rights as fathers and let them find you all in contempt of court. This is America not Nazi Germany

5/15/02
mykidsluvme@hotmail.com
I'm a mother who has seen the father issue from both sides. My first husband has

5/9/02
basicsoul7@aol.com
Fathers should have rights. The mothers should have rights and what about the child? I think the courts are so corrupt. My husband's family has a lot of money, his cousin/lawyer represents him, they lie continually and get away with it. What about the morality issue. My son and I are christians, and his father wants him to sleep over his girlfriends house....what kind of an example is that? We're not even divorced yet. I think it's disgusting whether father or mother....what is gotten away with. The children are the ones who suffer. My son's father tell him "to take his head out of his ass"....he's a well-educated, professional man and keeps getting away with murder. He is evil to my son. I feel bad for the father's whose wives won't let them visit their own children, but what about the abusive husbands...who are emotionally abusing their children...that could go both ways. His father pushed me backwards down the stairs...i still have pain in my lower back....when the police officers showed up, they told him "don't worry about it". Where is the justice there. Well, I hope you also see the other side of corruption. I really feel bad for the dads who are being abused by the mothers. There is a total imbalance of the judicial system...it is not always father vs mother. In My case money and power is the corruption..It S____ks. D

5/8/02
mike@fatherville.com
Really enjoy the Fathersonline website. Keep up the great work. Mike Farrell Fatherville.com

5/8/02
dyamond @no sheets.com
What do you think of a man who is a truck driver and makes good money and will not take care of his children and try to shoot his first born son because his wife told him that his son broke into his house and rob them now his wife hates his son as a matter of fact his wife do not want him to have anything to do with his children outside his marriage but all his children were there before her time. i cant get him to pay support and when we went to court he told the judge that they were not his children so he would not have to pay support and the part that makes it so bad one of his daughters was in the court room and heard him then he turned arond and call her a grown b#### what kind of father is that if i sleep with him he will take care of his children but if i do not sleep with him he will not do anything for his children!WHAT IS A MOTHER TO DO WHEN SHE HAS A DEAD BEAT DAD WHO WANTS TO STILL SLEEP WITH HER AND HE IS MARRIED? 3

4/30/02
rock@riccorocket.com
Please come and visit the side of my son www.gianluca-riccardi.de yours Ricco from Berlin Germany a Father...

4/26/02
smfry61@aol.com
Please send me some info on your program I can use your program very very much. Gary

4/23/02
creapersnc@hotmail.com
I'm a 44 Yr old widower who has a 14 year old daughter that refused to relocate with me to North Carolina after 9 years in Maryland. She's now acting out in school. She's living in an unsafe environment in MD and refuses to return to me. T\Legal advisors insist she has an option of where she chooses to live at that age. It's turning into a circus... Any assistance would be helpful... I Joined your Organization a while back. THANKS, Wyatt King

4/22/02
psepulveda@usc.edu
Hello, my name is Pamela and I am a graduate student in social work at the University of Southern California. I am currently working on a project that examines the legislative action of S.685, also known as the Strengthening Working Families Act of 2001. I am wondering if anyone would be interested in allowing me to discuss via e-mail how they, as a parent, views this legislation. Please e-mail me asap. I will be checking until April 27, 2002. Thank you for your time.

4/16/02
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Please sign our petition for shared parenting in New York: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748559348 Please: share this with everyone you can. Please get neighbors, co-workers, friends, relatives,anybody you can to sign this petition. New York's children need shared parenting THIS year. No child should EVER be kept from a good and loving parent. Thank you.

4/16/02
LAMONT@HELPME.COM
I REALY NEED HELP IM ABOUT TO LOSSE MY ONLY CHILD AND ITS NOT MY FALT WHAT SHOULD I DO

4/14/02
enyalover2001@aol.com
Hey, what do you all think of a father who is $1000 behind in support, never comes to see his 4-year-old daughter, and buys himself expensive things and then says he is too broke to buy his daughter anything? What do you think of a guy who scams the mother's family (which there is a record of) and then gets mad at them and turns everything around? What do you think of a man who does not show to see his daughter, refuses to call as he is required to, and then plans on accusing us (3 of us) of not letting him see her when we have had him over for dinner (when we were not obligated), let him stay later than required (when he actually showed), and have just basically gone out of our way for him to get to know his daughter (whom he did not care about until she was almost two....the same time I filed for child support....yet he knew about her)? I certainly hope none of you fathers support that kind of behavior. The worst thing about the father of my child and his behavior is that he is hurting my daughter (no, he is not hurting me....although I hurt for her). The next worst thing is that he uses Christianity as a cover-up for the crap he pulls. No doubt he has already enlisted in the help of the services at this site. I do support fathers who really do care about their children. Those are the fathers who actually show that they care. It saddens me that my daughter does not have a good father. I hope someday she will, though. And, please do not think of me as a man-basher. I just want to see what you all think of a man like who I described. I am not "flinging mud" at him. Most of my allegations can be proven in a court of law (and the fact that he has a 10-mile long criminal record is proof....although it might not keep him from having custody, it sure does nothing for his integrity in court according to my attorney).

4/10/02
idlaberynth@yahoo.com
I am desperately in need of leagal or regular advice on reestablishing my parrental rights. Any advice could help.

4/9/02
FOL Webmaster
just tested, member registration seems to work fine.

4/3/02
djalexteckmix@yahoo.com
I can't signin to be a member for some non sense computer reason but iI would like to enjoy

4/1/02
Platniumpac@aol.com
Hello, my name is mike and i live in romulus... after 11 months of not being able to see my daughter my bestfriend told me about this website and they might be able to help me see my daughter. I would love it if u guys could help me please.. thanks

3/28/02
johnlinville99@hotmail.com
I need advice, Ive always paid child support, and had three of my kids live with me, I never maid my x pay childsuppot, one year ago as the children grew up their mother came in their lives and inticed them to live with her , they beg me and I allowed them to go, as we share joint custody, one day after they moved in with her she filled papers to make me pay child support, this I did , I had a back injury at work the doctor would not sign for me to be realesed, and my manger wouldnt let me return to work less the doctor did release me, I became behind on my support, my x took me to court and tho I proved to the court with doctors statements how I was cornored and could not work, he convicted me to one year in jail as of 5-2-02 if I had not paid the arreage in full, My x wife told the judge she didnt wont me to go to jail our children would hate her, the judge said tell your children I put their dad in jail I wasent told of my appeals rights, do I have any rights to appeal before 5-2-002 to stay out of jail untill I can get a fair retrail, I ask if I could appeal, the cleark said I had to put up the amount of the arreage frist, if I could have done that -I would,t be going to jail. pleasae some one help me, I cant afford a lawyer John

3/14/02
wilsonjb3@hotmail.com
Hello Fathers Online! My name is Wilson and I am an American citizen/At-Home Dad who now lives in France (my wife is Swiss). In addition to being the Proud Homedad of a wonderful 2-year-old boy (Dorian), I am also an internationally Certified Fitness Trainer and Natural Bodybuilder-Athlete. Beginning in April, I will be publishing a monthly Fitness, Exercise and Nutrition newsletter for At-Home Dads and their families. The yearly subscritpion cost is only $10.00 (payable with U.S. money order or PayPal) and can be mailed to: Wilson Barton c/o, BARTON SPORTS & FITNESS, 165C-Chemin de la Fin, 74500 Publier-FRANCE. I look forward to hearing from all of you At-Home Dads. CIAO!!! Wilson Barton "HARDBODY HOMEDAD"

3/10/02
mmcommint@msn.com
I was just checking out the site. Looks good, would like to see more. I'm in Oshawa Canada. Win

3/7/02

This is a website with a petition for shared parenting in New York State: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/748559348 Would you please sign it and then pass it to EVERYONE you can, asking them to do the same. Also, if you are on any forums or chatrooms, that would be a good place to share it as well. Thanks! Deborah

2/27/02
manofwar_c@yahoo.com
Looking for help. My daughter is missing and the general master is about to through out the case because ex-wife will not pay her half of the gaurdian ad-litems fee, wich was ordered by the judge in Ft. Lauderdale Fl. I Live in Michigan and have a lot of money and time invested in my daughters welfare can anyone HELP US PLEASE !

2/25/02
mccjames@fickey.com
I am a father of six, and only my youngest son(James III) lives with me. I am constantly going through the system about my oldest two, who's mother has gone through the trouble of moving them out of state to keep me from seeing them. (My persistance has her bringing them back every other weekend to visit.) It is good to know that there is help for fathers out there. Our legal system is geared toward women so bad that there is basically no help for fathers. However, I use one rule for motivation: Persistance Overrides Resistance! Good Luck Fathers! James McCornell, Jr. - Father of Six

2/24/02
thonato2002@hotmail.com
I am trying to get my daughter out from D.S.S. they have taken 2 drug test on me 1st past 2nd they said I had cocain absolutely false reading can anyone relate?

2/23/02
j-pol@att.net
Do you have some kind of serach engine where we can look for persons with similar issues? Please let me know.

2/17/02
jstrycharz@milx net
I think Bible & Prayer should come back to the schools. May God bless you Joe Jr.

2/12/02
dgranddeejay@aol.com
I am really happy to see a website that will actually be of use to the world.I want to thank the person that started this.___"THANK YOU". MR.DARREN EVANS.

1/30/02
MY_NORMITA@HOTMAIL.COM
I HAVE THE WORLDS GREATEST FATHER THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM ITS VERY SAD THAT I FOUND THE WORST FATHER FOR MY CHILD

1/26/02
turd21@bellsouth.net
I was looking through different websites on behalf of my husband. He had a child when he was 20 by a former girlfriend. And when they went to court her mother told him that in order for him to get vistitation rights he had to come down and get to know his son. Now this is her mother saying that the mother of the baby did not say anything so now he does not see him. I was just wandering if anyone could help me with the legal stuff i want to see his son just as much as he does. THANKS PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!!!!

1/9/02
Bigham@prodgy.net
I am a divorced father of four sons who are currently estranged from me. I have been through one of my most challenging and difficult years financially due to lay offs this past year, and the only feedback (mail) that I get from my sons is hate mail filled with profanity. The break up with their mother was horrific, and she maintained every asset we owned. I am now remarried, and struggling with my current obligations and that of my children (child support). I am at a loss, and feel I have no place in their lives anymore. I am concerned about being incarcerated and wanted to find out about the facts concerning my back child support. I paid child support last month and let my rent and utilities go for this month. I desire to take care of my sons and feel it's an honor to help care for them monetarily...I'm not a dead-beat dad, but the guilt of it all weighs heavy on my heart. Do you know what I can do? Can you answer my other question about the back child support? I recently moved to California, and my sons are out of state. Please help if you can. Thanks, John

1/6/02
closina@intellex.com
sirs. I am a non-custodial father with a vacated vistation. I have no rights to my children. I have not been allow to have any contact over nine years. My children are two, a daughter who was four at the time,and a son who was six. Now they are 15 and 17 respectivly. I can not express to you the daily pain I live with because of thier absence. Closure is a myth with out justice. My ex began by offering to assist me to shoot my self, so that she might gain title to our home and land unemcubered,, "Honorably" She made repected attempt to promote this idea. I fled with my children from this sociopathic person. What came next is beyound expectation and what is more had the full backing of the state Oklahoma and the DHS. When asked if I could get some backing to defend my self the state said "that would be a conflict of intrest" and when the DHS was asked if even a supervised visitation was possible for myself and my family members " the representation a radiacal feminist; said loudly"Hell no". This lady promply claimed that my Orthodox christian faith was a wierd california cult, that at pashca we worshiped satan and practiced strange rituals on her children. If any are familar with the Greek Orthodox Faith they know better. Next she accused my mother, my father, my friends and my priest of varrious obcene, and sick acts..then went on to my self saying anything that she felt would be effective. She had me locked in an EOD ward and sought to have me placed in her care as her ward. on the basis of my orthodoxy and my desire not to be shot. Fortunatly she failed in this effort as the judge couldnt stop laughing at her. Never the less she said "I know him best of all and he needs to be commited" Still in the end my visitation was vacated and i lost my heart and world. Since my children have been taught that they have a "skip" gene and are ":defective" because of thier Cherokee ancestry.. Thier mother is white. Her more r3ecent childern are white also. My tow are dark and black eyed and remind her of me... she clubed my son with a shovel leaving an eight inch scar across his head...placed him in a state intitution where he was raped by several other boys.. he bears the emotional scars to this day... his mother went ot school while he was away. She explains " I did what I had to; one must hurt other people before they hurt you" She also commited my daughter for the same period where she was taught that her father was "no good' and that she should fear me/. She has been well trained by her mother to hate her natural father. Over these years I have done every thing possible to stay near, to provide support,,montary nd other wise,,,,have been cuffed and jailed,, have wept,,, and just stared into the empty chairs... no anger does not go away,, no there is no closure ,,,ther is no justice...for fathers. Why am I not in prison if a crime has been commited? the terrible answer is that there never was one,,, that I was beaten by city police,one who was sleeping with her( she told them whatever you do just get rid of him) that my rights cover in the bill of rights were ignored in the hisseria of a sick persons witch hunt. My friends how can fathers or anyone prove inocence in the face of such a person? Am I alone. I my blood and life cut off? Is there no recourse?

12/7/01
mulima1@hotmail.com
Family is important, and fathers have be ostricised from family to long, less keep working to change that. PEACE

11/30/01
Chauk1@earthlink.net
Finally a place where I can get some help. Thank you so much. Joint but not legally, Dad

11/20/01
patrtl2@prodigy.net
I am going to be in Washington for a conference Dec. 3. Any chance I could come and talk to you about our mentoring programs within our parenting classes. Thanks.

10/11/01
oldcloudy@hotmail.com
As an Australian in the last stages of publishing a book on Boys Education and the Journey to Manhood, I value the people who contribute to your site. Keep up the good work>

10/8/01
Michigan815@yahoo.com
The Fathers Initiative Program is the best thing that ever happened to me. Being a young father, the information I have received has helped me be a better father and in doing so, helping others as well.

8/19/01
s2ndino@aol.com
I always think any forum that allows Fathers to talk back and forth as dads is important. I have to be honest about my feelings or what may be construed as my first impression on "Fathers on line." It appears like the people in charge are well heeled and political. Not that that is a bad thing but its been my exprerience that often people who get and have a little more of what life has to offer lose touch with the "ordinary people" who are strugling with what may seem as mundane and unimportant issues of day to day living. Maybe thats not the case at all, but the awards given out sure do point that way. That doe's not take away the praise you deserve for promoting such a noble and worth while cause. Thankyou!

8/14/01
heyxel@yahoo.com
can you be my friend

8/12/01
julieroberts@aol.com
this is one mum from the uk who would like her children to see their dad, but girlfriend says no i would like to hear from any one, who has some advice and good luck with the site

8/12/01
angel083069@telocity.com
I beilieve this is the best website that I have ever seen and read, for any type of family advise and guidenes

8/8/01
KAELYN@CHARTER.COM
HELP FATHERS CONTINUE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR CHILDREN!!!

8/7/01
kendee@hotmail.com
I'm a divorce father, due to domistic violence. Even though i'm no longer a husband to my wife, I'm always going to be a father to my daughter. I have fought the courts and my ex's to keep my place with my daughter. Now that I have won the fight, my life is even harder then when it started. But I keep fighting, and I want it to stop. What can I do, to rest my heart. These are so many reason why fathers out there don't stick around, cause they too are tirer from fightting. We are not born to beat on women, nor cause hate in our heart. The system keeps us fightting with one another. Please STOP the domistic violence, to keep the system from hurting you.

8/1/01
marianne_petra@hotmail.com
Is it possible to obtain fathers on a time share arrangement? My son's father left when I was 6 months pregnant and I agree strongly that children need fathers but what do you suggest when fathers don't need children?

7/31/01
jbledsoe_story@sendfree.com
I strive to be the best I can for my Daughter. She was born on July 22 1998. If it were not for the grace of God, and a miracle of faith, I would not still be a soul within flesh. I was almost killed on Oct 24th 1999, after being hit by a drunk driver, and ejected through the windshield of my truck! My story goes a lot further than just being there for my daughter Summer, it is something that to this day I give my grateful thanks to ...... Please send an email to the address above, and read my story. I wrote it in Feb. of 2000, and I still use it to give me a kick when I need it! Thank you for this site, and the messages I have had the opportunity to read. Joseph Bledsoe .... Goffstown NH

7/28/01
andy62@optonline.net
I wish there were more people like yourself.

7/26/01
Dmarhoefer2@aol.com
This is the fathers day tribute that I had written this year for my own father. Fathers Day I can still see your hand holding mine...... how large to how small mine was....and ever so gently you held me......you let me study everything about your hands....from all the hair.... to how I could feel your veins.......so unlike mine....... you let me feel your strength........ that gently gave way to the warmth of your heart..... and the light in your eyes lit the warmth of your smile...... Strong, brave, courageous...... If you were ever afraid I never knew it.... in you I sought safety......and found it...... in you I knew I was protected...... your strength never once scared me, and it was you who taught me that the proof of a great man is in how he holds a child...... (or in how he allows a child to hold him) Denise Marhoefer June 2001 copyright 2001 To all Fathers everywhere......may you never under estimate how important you are.... may you always allow yourself the weakness of being gently touched by a child........ and in this may you find much strength...... ~Happy Fathers Day~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Dmarhoefer2@aol.com The Legal Defense Foundation for children http://members.aol.com/dmarhoefer2/myhomepage/business.html

7/21/01
juju57@suite101.com
I think this site is doing a great service! I'm a mom, and have learned a lot from it, and will make sure my husband comes here, too! Thanks for making this site and all the information available to us parents. Julie http://suite101.com/welcome.cfm/parenting_shorts

7/17/01
phooka@stormnet.com
I'm a father to a 7 mo old, do the compliments ever get old?? NAH!!

7/9/01
d2felt@yahoo.com
I am very impressed to see such a website that is bringing males back into the lives of todays youth.

7/1/01
tmaushund@hotmail.com
What does my husband do when his ex wife is lying to child support to get money she shouldn't be getting

6/23/01
tinah1012@aol.com
Please Pray for us. My youngest child is 17 months old. �The Institute for Responsible Fatherhood and Family Revitilization was very effective in getting her father to come around. Things are very looking well. �I hope it continues. �However, I have three girls by a man who is now a minister. His name is Minister Charles Owens. �I had recently heard him on a Christian radio broadcast stating "God is not a deadbeat dad." �I hadn't heard from him in years until I heard him on the radio. �I contacted Bishop Evans of Bethany Baptist Church of New Jersey for help. Click here: Abundant Harvest The Bishop seemed to know Minister Charles Owens quite well. �However, the Bishop seemed to also think that the issues I presented were not ministerial issues. �Additionally Minister Charles Owens denied being the father of our girls aged 12, 13, and soon to be 15 to the Bishop. �The Bishop did promise that Minister Charles Owens would make himself available for paternity test. �This has not happened. �I fully understand that the church is not responsible for Charles Owens behavior, but they have aided and abetted him. � I have no other way of contacting Minister Charles Owens than through the church or the radio broadcast. �I had hoped the church would have been more helpful and was surprised by their response. � Please do whatever you can to help. Gratefully, Christine Harrity, MHS 727 North 16th Street, 1A Philadelphia, PA 19130 215-238-1434 (days) 215-236-6321 (evenings)

6/22/01
fleabite2002@ivillage.com
While I fully support having a father in a child's life, there certainly is a misleading slant to this organization's idealogy. There are so many kinds of families, no one better than any other. As long as a child is loved and supported, s/he has all of the tools necessary for success in life. Having a father in a child's life is marvelous, and is a goal to strive for. However, the "decline" in stability in modern families is not resultant solely in the absence of fathers; it lies in our government's inability to support families, regardless of their makeup. Our government and our society is unwilling to provide options for single mothers, working mothers and yes, single and working fathers. The family, despite all of the lip-service given to us by polititians, remains a low priority. When the family, in *all* its various and engaging forms, is given the support and encouragement it needs, our children will profit and benefit.

6/22/01
heygene@webtv.net
i would really injoy more inforation about fathers online

6/19/01
quad-dad@juno.com
Fathers online is a great place for us dads thanks. Dennis Ross home pages quads9.homestead.com

6/13/01
spitfireonice
Sorry folks, Im a DAD. I didn't get that clear in my last post. And I do believe its time to get the laws rewritten to give Fathers a fair shake in court, not just assume that they can be fried and sentenced after divorce/separation with life paying child support to a local D.A.'s office so they can hire more dead weight.

6/13/01
spitfireonice@hotmail.com
Im confused, I have been a single full-time 24/7/365 with 100% Legal and physical custody of my 2 girls for over 6 years. I am offended when I see billboards and ads on buses that say things like "Fatherhood is forever" or something to that effect. I wish to retort that PARENTING IS FOREVER ! HELLO ! What, did we all fall asleep? Maybe Im different, but I feel that the Man is responsible to raise the children, the woman is a helpmate, she's there to nuture (if shes' there! hehe~!) I pay up to $1000 a month for daycare, there are no programs to help me. If your a father, make it a priority to get involved with your kids and raise them! before someone else does.... Its not easy being a full-time single PARENT, however the sense of fullfullment, the joy and the rewards of children who say "I Love You DAD" is more than all the money in the world. So why is there a problem?

4/17/01
dvkarro@msn.com
I am not a father nor a mother but I live with a man that has been denied being a father to his son since he left their home. He was not married to this lady but felt he needed to stay around for his son but he could'nt take the hassel the mother was putting on the both of them. I do not relish the idea that he is concidered a "dead beat dad" What about the "dead beat mothers" out here? and how do they rate when they denie the rights of the father to see their sons? It is too bad that they have more right (legally) to be a mentally abusive parent than the father. I am not taking sides to this but I have seen from personal experiance by knowing the mother and what she has done to this child. Where do you suggest a father who is not a "dead beat Dad" to go for help before this child is lost to drugs or an abusive relationship himself?

4/11/01
krissadman@allidaho.com
nice site

3/25/01
clown@cqc.com
im needing help with questions on fighting an adoption on my daughter.

3/17/01
child@pnpa.net
I would like to announce publication of my new book, "Betrayal of the Child", have you review it and offer it to fathers- Best, Stewart Rein Children & Human Rights Council

3/16/01
susilemar@yahoo.com
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3/16/01
saletobe@aol.com
I'm just starting waht looks like an ugly6 divorce , with my6 kids in the middle of it. What I need help with is I strongly suspect adultry but dont have enough proof? what can I do? second I want to try to get custody of my children and keep them in a nice home, and good schools in the suburbs, while my wife wants to put them in an apartment in a bad area of the city? Waht can I do HELP

3/13/01
nsgrace@hotmail.com
I was looking for a place that would describe the difference between a "father" and a "dad." Got any suggestions? thanks for your help

3/5/01
markvpearce@xsinet.co.za
Hi From the Fathers of the Newton Park Methodist Church Port Elizabeth S/Africa

3/4/01
ARSRECOVERY@aol.com
It is about time fathers had their rights heard

3/2/01
bing@locl.net
i seek advice and or help

2/22/01
capricorn007@email.com
I came by way of Ad Council Ad and wanted to say, I hope this forum works. I am a Dad/Father who has been shafted by the system and the other parent; so that my child at 14 no longer recognizes me as her father. The court system in this state is geared to make these statistics. fatherless children, or a guy who moves in and needs to think that he has this other father's children as his own. Nothing like slitting our own throats. When is this barbarism going to stop. Of course, I am considered " another disgruntled litigant". Which is newspeak for someone we do not want to deal with, because we (the court system) do not have a CLUE! PEOPLE, how can we allow guys/gals in black robes have more power over us than we would ever allow a physician or for that matter GOD!!

2/19/01
Schoie7@cs.com
I am not a father but a mother, yet am so pleased that there is finally a network of support for dads to be able to chat and gain support from those who may be experiencing the same or similar experiences.

2/15/01
DHK@btinternet.com
i am a divorced father with a 3 year old daughter who i see every fortnight. We have nothing in the U.K like this and i would like to communicate with other fathers, in similar situations.

2/4/01
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
You better know "your roll" as well as, the Governments roll now, in The Family......... if you don't know it, then, you better read here below, because that's "the way" it's going to stay always !. ..................... The Family: A Proclamation to the World The First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator's plan for the eternal destiny of His children. All human beings�male and female�are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose. In the premortal realm, spirit sons and daughters knew and worshiped God as their Eternal Father and accepted His plan by which His children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress toward perfection and ultimately realize his or her divine destiny as an heir of eternal life. The divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave. Sacred ordinances and covenants available in holy temples make it possible for individuals to return to the presence of God and for families to be united eternally. The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife. We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God's eternal plan. Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. "Children are an heritage of the Lord" (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives�mothers and fathers�will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations. The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed. We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets. We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.....

1/14/01
DaGrToRy@aol.com
need support legal advice my wife left me after 24 years of marriage ,three grown kids youngest is 17 and she want,s half of house and my 401k

1/10/01
psfrance@aol.com
It would be great to assemble periodically successful fathers who can mentor other fathers or caregivers on a regional basis. A regional meeting is recommended to reduce the travel expense but at the same time create synergy and creativity with those who are not located in that metropolitian area. For example, a group of fathers in Chicago, recommended by their children, community leaders or pastors, would meet with a group of fatherless children and their mentors/caregivers in Indiana. Is something like this being done? What potential sources of funding could be secured to defray the costs? Please respond. on a project basis that would benefit those who have no fathers. It could be a workshop, a fellowship event, or any number of things that would be

1/3/01
LarryGalantis@ netscape.net
Reading the posts, It reminds of why I gave up trying to help fathers with problems associated with visitational interference, child support etc.,( I started a fathers rights group in the early 90's). As a group, men as fathers, have taken little or no action except when they need help for their individual crisis. Women, on the other hand, have organized and put the pressure on our elected officials and public sentiment. No wonder we as fathers, are fighting an uphill battle. Women whine more effectively than men do. If it gets to hot for men...we just walk away. As a result, we have gotten what we deserve...NOTHING. I'm not endorsing NFI or NCFC but what would convince me that an organization is truly interesed in helping children and dads is money spent on changing the legislative agenda, not commercials telling men that they need to be good fathers. It's hard to be a good father when we are called "visitors" and when are time with kids is subject to the custodials parent's wishes. Don't tell me about court recourse....judges don't enforce visitation with the same tenacity they enforce support and a clever ex can bankrupt you with lawyers fees. Anyway..I have to go...revisiting this stuff after 10 years of personal experience is making me Ill. Good Luck Dads! If you want to make a difference, quit whining, organize and take dramatic, visible action. Don't let the "big lies" that women foster get by you without argument.

1/2/01
rt2002@exite.com
Not having my son on a daily basis leaves an emptiness in my heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/1/01
elamin8739@aol.com
great work

12/23/00
mpaul8883@aol.com
Dues are seemingly high! This site seems interesting...I'll consider joining if the content is what I hope.

12/20/00
fmccarty@coresource.com
I asked for your help a few days ago,it was a simple question.Just could someone point me to a doctor. no one has responded. Its no wonder single mothers kick our buts, the only place to get help is no help at all

12/19/00
harperwt@mcn.net
I would like more information

11/15/00
laborlife@aol.com
Help please -- a father who was never married to mother is getting nothing from the Friend of the Court of the State of Michigan or the mother. We have no money to spend on a lawyer. The court does every thing for her. We have a history of letter writing with the case manager of the Friend of the Court (FOC). They take so much money in child support and then I get hit for child care in which the mother repeatedly lies about the cost of it. They give me the smallest amount of time possible it seems with my children. I was an involved father who changed diapers and walked the halls with sick babies in the middle of the night. When my girlfriend left me to live with another man at night, she had no problem leaving the children with me at night. Like I said, there's a long history and the FOC is no friend of mine or my children, since they are the ones who suffer the most in the end. Anyway, I'm looking for help in the Northern Michigan area. I want the lying mother to have accountability for her lies and I want real father's rights. I'm not just a check in the mail, and I feel the court is denying me my civil rights as a parent. Help!

11/12/00
schooleyj@aol.com
Outstanding site!!! Thinking about becoming a member. Happy to finaly find some support for someone who wants and tries to be a good father. Thanks.

11/1/00
I AM M TEN CATE
Hi! I am Marilyn. I'm a mother of 3 children whose father abandoned us via a phone call home. I have been a homemaker for 19 1/2 years due to husband request. We are now divorcing. He wants nothing to do with his own children and has seen any of the 3 only a few times in an entire year. Each time a visit or call was made it was because of an upcoming court date. My husband has left us in emotional and financial ruin. Besides ignoring our children and their needs, he has purchased platnium, diamonds, vacations, entertainment, etc. (mostly on a joint credit card in my name as well as his), for a female - who is and has a child. They have been living together in a luxury condo for a year. His name is on the lease and is all expenses. I'm sure you get the picture from what I have explained. My request is for ANY information on how I might approach this in court for our final trial in January. From all I have heard and seen the judges are blind to the suffering of the children. How do I make him aware of what they endured the last year he did live at home as well as the suffering they are going trhough now? They not only have an absentee father, but one who would like them living in the street. My attorney seems to think it is pretty much hopeless because my husband already spent all of the cash, despite court order, and ran up a lot of debt. He said, "Now the court won't punish him because he has threatened banruptcy. Judges don't like bancruptcy - the wife and children would have to suffer first." Does anybody have any sugeestions, advice or help? Thank you,I appreciate your condsideration. Marilyn H. Ten Cate

10/30/00
billj@menindivorce.com
Hi and I think your site is terrific! I've linked my site to you and reccommend that all dads visiting me, visit you as well. I've written a book (guide) to help men going through divorce. It consists of 10 sections that cover all aspects of divorce. Ask it a question and it points you to the section you need. The site is up but I'm having some problems with my web master so it will be a couple of more weeks. Please look for my site, "menindivorce.com" and let me know what you think. I've spent five years putting the guide together with the hope that it will help men make smarter decisions and surrive. Thanks again, Bill Justus it to

10/28/00
mrccsccc
i am happy to see a website designed for fathers. I am a case manager at a non-profit agency that just started the fatherhood iniative program and was searching for ideas to help the program. If you can offer any help or ideas about what is beneficial to this program please email me and tell me what you think? thanks

10/20/00
bergusp@asme.org
I am trying to network with other Fathers from Washington State. My 'ex (mother of my children)' is trying to purge me and my parents (whole paternal side of the family) from the children's lives. The courts in WA State give her everything she asks for. The kids are being cheated out of their loving and (previouslyvery involved) father. HELP!!! HELP!!! Is there anyone else going thru this? Can we network and do something to protect our rights and our children's rights to know their fathers? Peter Bergus bergusp@asme.org

10/17/00
child@pnpa.net
Sites such as this are much needed. I just wanted to notify all interested fathers that I have pre-published a book on divorce and custody issues titled "Betrayal of the Child"- A sample chapte/resume/toc are available at: The Center for Children's Justice site www.childrensjustice.com and can also be purchased as an E-Book from Mightywords.com Best Regards, Stewart Rein

10/15/00
Phuzz@yahoo.com
I saw the link on The Eternal City.This site is very useful.Thanks.

10/11/00
Dad o Maya@aol.com
Great not to feel alone. Thanks. I'd like to see more ongoing chats.

10/2/00
jim@divorcedmensclub.com
Hi, My name is Jim O'Connor. I started The Divorced Men's Club in January, 2000, after my wife divorced me in 1999. You can find TDMC at www.divorcedmensclub.com. TDMC offers all visitors the following: 1. Membership. Join and share information about your divorce with other members. Volunteer to be a buddy for another man going through a divorce. Rate your attorney. Advertise your business for free. Your dues help pay for web site development and hosting fees. 2. View the Virtual Honor Wall. All fathers can dedicate an Internet brick to their children. Click on the brick to see the father's dedication. Tell your children in this unique and special way how much you love them. All proceeds go to support the National Father's Resource Center (www.fathers4kids.org). 3. Build a second income. Divorce ruins a lot of men financially. TDMC sponsors 2 business plans which can benefit everyone who joins so that they can pay their child support and live a decent and enriching life. If we work together, we can do it! I hope you will visit TDMC (www.divorcedmensclub.com). If you have any questions or comments, please call me at 1-877-795-7942. Thank you very much and have a great day! Jim O'Connor Founder, The Divorced Men's Club 1-877-795-7942

9/28/00
debarta@aol.com
I am the National Mother of the Year 2000, (see web site: info/americanmothers.org I have 11 children from a his, hers and ours family. All of the men are exceptional dads.My two husbands are deceased. They are probably sitting on a cloud saying, "she can't take all the credit for raising this family". No, I can't. It takes two parents to do the job right.

9/14/00
John026@excite.com
I am entering the father life at the age of eighteen, I am finding it's a very chalenging yet rewarding road I've found myself on! Watching my Mother and my two sisters go threw life without a father for there children, It tends to make me wounder if the same is instore for my wife and daughter to be, or if I'll be able to be there and be strong for my family unlike how my father and my nefews fathers were for them! Do to the financial situation that I am currently in It will be a little while till I'm able to join. Ferther more I truely believe that what you have started here is a wonderful and caring organization. In witch I will one day be a part of. Sincerely John O. Ingram

9/5/00
jerrybserene@earthlink.net
I'm having trouble connecting with help

9/2/00
Quad-Dad@juno.com
I have 9 kids with a set of quadruplets, My wife has a great job. So I have always been home with my kids. I home school the six youngest one. The ages of my kids are 7 to 15. our web set is at.. http://quads9.homestead.com/

8/29/00
tsgte6@HOTMAIL.COM
jUST A WORD TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THERE IS HOPE. i HAVE JUST FINISHED A WEEK OF LITIGATION FOR THE CUSTODY OF MY 2 KIDS 11 AND 13 AND HAVE WON. tHEY WERE IN AN ABUSIVE HOME BUT IT HAS TAKEN THE LAST YEAR TO GET THEM OUT. MY SUGGESTION TO ALL WHO WANT TO SAVE THEIR CHILDREN IS TO FIND THE BEST ATTY. THAT THEY CAN AND TO DOCUMENT EVERY THING AND I MEAN EVERYTHING DOWN TO PHONE BILLS AND GRADE CARDS. i WON IN NORTHERN OHIO W/ THE HELP OF ATTY. DENIS LEVIN OF CLEVELAND A GOOD SOURCE( THOUGH NOT A CHEAP ONE)AND A WONDERFUL ATTY. HE CAN BE REACHED AT DLEVIN@ICGROUP.NET HE SAVED MY DAY. KEEP THE FAITH IT IS A LONG HARD ROAD, MINE STARTED ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO( WITH A CHEAP ATTY. THAT SET ME BACK AND ALMOST GOT ME THROWN IN JAIL)BUT IF YOU KEEP THE COURSE THERE IS HOPE CHUCK

8/23/00
cargenie@aol.com
It took me 41 court appointments, 3 stints in jail, over $25,000 and countless heartbreaks and tears but I finally got custodyof my son! I hae been through more than most any man should and now feel like it was on purpose. What I mean is that I now help other men work toward getting custody, alternate custody, (visitation), lesser child support and the things that the courts, lawyers and judges advocates do not want you to know! I am not an attorney , I do not charge a fee, I am a man on a mission that is tired of attorneys taking men before the court and crucifying them. I welcome all emails. Dennis Baker

8/18/00
pdgillis@pei.sympatico.ca
my heart goes out to you.I am divorced and the mom of 4 children;I never stand in the way of my children seeing their dad;I don`t have the right to do such a thing.The problem was between the parents not the children.Don`t give in ;your children need you !!!

8/13/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
This Election Year 2000, do we father's bow down too Al Gore, the man that said He invented the internet and wants father's to be closer to their children, and says it with a straight face, or do we even listen to what Bill Clinton has to say about it, and how HE loves our children, "I DON'T THINK SO" because they are full of lies from the get go and here another example of that for all you dad's out there................................. Web-porn scandal rocks White House West Wingers downloaded gay, bestial, teen sex videos, jamming firewall system By Paul Sperry � 2000 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- A consultant hired last year to beef up security for the White House's computer network found massive pornographic video files passing through the system's Internet firewall, WorldNetDaily has learned. Some of the downloaded files were traced back to West Wing officials as recently as the beginning of last year, during the height of the impeachment crisis, say sources who were involved in replacing the firewall system as part of Y2K security upgrades. The real-time video files -- which came from hard-core porn sites featuring homosexual, farm-animal and teen sex acts -- were so large in byte volume that they accounted for most of the traffic coming into the firewall, sources told WorldNetDaily. All Internet links and e-mail must first pass through the firewall before coming into the local area network for the Executive Office of the President and on to individual network users. The firewall system is designed to screen Internet traffic for messages containing network-crippling viruses. A Y2K computer consultant in early 1999 discovered the unusually large volume of porn-site traffic coming into the White House while reviewing the firewall logs. A White House computer specialist recalled the reaction of one of the contractors at the time. "He started to laugh and said, 'It looks like the majority of traffic going through the firewall is pornography,'" said the White House employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Both President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore have denounced cyber-porn and have pushed so-called "E-chips" to block the Internet's "purveyors of pornography," as Gore called them last year. White House cyber-security experts have asked WorldNetDaily to withhold the name of the Y2K contractor that upgraded the firewall system, arguing that disclosing the information would tip off hackers to the security software the White House is using and make it easier for them to breach the network. WorldNetDaily agreed to reveal only that the company is based in California. The firewall logs show the uniform resource locator, or URL (basically the Web zip code), of the porn sites from which the videos (MOVs) and still-graphics (JPEGs and GIFs) were downloaded. "There were things that said 'teen,'" the White House computer expert said. "There was gay and bestiality stuff too." Bestiality? "Donkeys, goats, dogs," explained the source, who later accessed some of the raunchier sites. "It's embarrassing." Upon the discovery of the heavy XXX-rated traffic, White House security specialists undertook a "forensics" effort to ID the White House network users who were downloading -- and watching -- the videos on government computers and time. Investigators, including White House Security Officer Charles Easley, looked at a number of variables to separate the habitual from the accidental Web-porn surfers. They scanned firewall logs over several weeks so they could see the repeat offenders. They also zeroed in on the large-byte files. What they found was shocking. "There were some significant names. I can say, yes, West Wing," said one White House source familiar with the investigation. "There were women too." Many of the offenders also officed out of the Old Executive Office Building, including presidential personnel, sources say. One was in national security. One of the worst offenders, however, was a senior White House computer-systems manager, who was reprimanded but allowed to stay in the White House after being treated for an "addiction" to porn. Sources say the porn abuser is so sensitive to the possibility of public exposure that he would likely take his own life if his name were disclosed here. Security experts weren't just worried about the bandwidth-eating Web videos slowing down the White House computer network for legitimate business, or bringing a "Trojan horse" virus into the system. They also feared they could open up White House officials to blackmail from outsiders looking to access the network. "It's a potential security risk," said one White House insider. "A hacker could call up an official and say, 'I have evidence you've been downloading kiddy porn. Give me your network passcode, or else.'" The Internet-linked network is unclassified (although another, classified network exists in the White House), but most everything on it is still sensitive. At any given time it may contain secret agendas for high-level meetings over trade and other policies, for example, or advance data from unpublished economic reports. Such information is potentially valuable to anyone from foreign diplomats looking for geopolitical leverage to stock traders looking for an edge. By February 1999, after the California contractor had replaced the old firewall and alerted officials to the cyber-porn problem, White House computer specialists set up filters to block employee access to the porn sites. Officials could have installed filters on the old Internet firewall, but never did -- except in the case of one site, an X-rated spoof of the official White House site. (Last year, a New Jersey man who says he accidentally logged onto the unofficial White House site in a public library, was escorted off by police and banned from the library.) According to White House insiders, White House guidelines for proper computer use by employees prohibit using them for profit, but do not specifically restrict using them to access Internet pornography. Last year an Internet porn policy was submitted to White House lawyers, but was not instated as part of any global policy, sources say. In 1997, Clinton and Gore announced a "strategy for a family friendly Internet" which included proposing the distribution of "E-chip" technology for filtering cyber-porn. "We all know and we've heard the horror stories about the inappropriate material for children that can be found on the Internet," Clinton said during the July 16, 1997, press conference. The event's press release said: "The president emphasized that government (has) an important role to play in achieving the goal of a family friendly Internet." "The President made clear that the administration remains committed to the vigorous enforcement of federal prohibitions against the transmission of child pornography and obscenity over the Internet," the release added, "and the use of the Internet by pedophiles to entice children to engage in sexual activity." Last year, Gore encouraged parents to "restrict their children's e-mail contact to keep the potential predators at bay -- purveyors of pornography." He said they must be protected from "red light districts in cyberspace." The White House has resisted requests from Congress, a federal court and other investigators to turn over Internet firewall logs -- which are stored on emergency back-up tapes -- in response to subpoenas for missing e-mail sent to West Wing officials over the Internet. Incoming e-mail also travels through the firewall. White House lawyers have argued that the logs don't include the contents of the e-mail, just the "to" and "from," and therefore would not be helpful to investigators. Besides, they claim, only the past several months worth of firewall logs are stored on back-up tapes; previous tapes of logs are recycled. Besides incoming e-mails, the tapes of the 1998 and 1999 firewall logs also recorded the massive volume of porn traffic going into the White House network over that period, sources say. Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily.

7/17/00
scottthees@bright.net
I have been raising my children for 10 yrs. now and the first year or so were really hard but I wouldn't know what to do without them.

7/3/00
coffey55@msn.com
Hello, Do you do anything to keep fathers in the home against wrongful court orders, and false accusations from selfish mothers? Would I benefit from your organization if I have been forcibly removed from my children's lives? I am a great father and want to be but can't because of the legal system and my wife's false accusations. I would appreciate any response. Thanks

6/21/00
kathibooth@Yahoo.com
SEARCHING FOR NATURAL FATHER: Larry Hodge, last known to reside in El-Paso Texas. Please contact me.

6/13/00
jkidd@nmsu.edu
Hello everyone, I'm looking for information on what dads can do to help out at home once mother and baby come home from the hospital. If you have any comments or information please feel free to e-mail me.

6/11/00
sparkyj@nji.com
Hooo-ray for you! Finally a site to help men with children from divorce, etc. I surely wish this site was available when I went through my divorce. I made mistakes with my children and have spent the past 13 years helping them maintain balance in their lives. I also want you to know that I recently completed a "Guide" for men through divorce. It will be an "E"-book and distributed on CD in Acrobat Reader, as a PDF. When my site is completed I'll come back here and let you know how to find it. If you do check it out, I'd really appreciate your comments. If you feel it deserves merit perhaps you'll let me link via your site. Again, bravo for having this site. Regards, Bill Justus

5/7/00
StayC2c@aol.com
This seems like a great site. I will have to share it with some of my co-workers, as we are involved with a men's initiative.

5/2/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I WANTED TOO SHARE "THIS TRUTH" WITH EACH & EVERY ONE OF YOU TODAY, I ASK THAT YOU ALL READ IT AS WELL, I AM PRO FAMILY & PRO FATHER AS WELL HERE, IT'S TIME THAT "THIS" GETS REVISITED: (IT WILL "NOT" GO AWAY EVER AS WELL !) The Family: A Proclamation to the World The First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator's plan for the eternal destiny of His children. All human beings�male and female�are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose. In the premortal realm, spirit sons and daughters knew and worshiped God as their Eternal Father and accepted His plan by which His children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress toward perfection and ultimately realize his or her divine destiny as an heir of eternal life. The divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave. Sacred ordinances and covenants available in holy temples make it possible for individuals to return to the presence of God and for families to be united eternally. The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife. We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God's eternal plan. Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. "Children are an heritage of the Lord" (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives�mothers and fathers�will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations. The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed. We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets. We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society. This proclamation was read by President Gordon B. Hinckley as part of his message at the General Relief Society Meeting held September 23, 1995, in Salt Lake City, Utah.

5/1/00
pv96mt98@aol.com
Sorry, forgot one thing. Unless you son is innoncent, which He might be I don't know, but He is there and the kids are just shit of luck. Right>

5/1/00
PV96MT98@AOL.COM
Hey Dad, 41/f/here. Sorry your kids in prison, but why should support stop? Don'tunderstand here. Is the kid dead? Has no bills? Kid not living untill dad comes out? Hey, been on both sides payed child support and recived it. But I still don't understand why your son is in jail and the support stops? Emotional yes, to bad for kid. Sounds like to me, nobody is thinking of kid. To bad>

4/28/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I wanted too share something with you all, from William F. Buckley, JR., that I found to be interesting, about a international father / son" case..............................OK. ELIAN, ELIAN, GO AWAY Attorney General Janet Reno has the authority to send in tanks, with air cover, to remove Elian Gonzalez from his grand-uncle and move him to his father, where Elian would live in diplomatic shelter until the highest court, or perhaps a Constitutional Convention, decides whether to keep him in the United States or let him go back to Cuba. Chris Matthews asked a congressman on Thursday whether the right of diplomatic shelter extends to a right to diplomatic egress. In other words, if the Cuban diplomatic representative took in Elian and, day after tomorrow, the court rules that he should stay here, can the Cuban guys defy the court by simply walking the kid to the airport and flying him to Havana? The congressman's answer was garbled. But the correct answer is: No; sovereignty in a foreign country is confined to diplomatic acreage. Whatever Reno and the U.S. Marines come up with, a question is now open that is going to need a lot of fine political attention. One analyst, surveying the situation, opines that "mid-America" has come to think of the Cuban-American community in Florida as quite simply fanatical. The bald poll figures would seem to bear him out. The majority of Americans think Elian should be returned to his father (and, presumably, on to Havana). The lawyers for the family have put up a superb defense. A few weeks ago the legal question appeared open and shut. Suddenly on Wednesday we found the llth Court of Appeals, no less, ruling that the question of custody needed to be examined before the government could act to return Elian to Cuba. There was wild jubilation in Miami. The anti-Castro chorus is in full cry. But the analysts appear to be correct. Although the case has actually been the cause of an estrangement between Vice President Gore and President Clinton, we are reminded that the reason for it is that Clinton is secure in his knowledge of the larger national mood, while Gore is especially pitching for support in Florida, a state he needs desperately to win in order to conquer the White House. The real strain is on the anti-communist old guard. I haven't done the research, but I doubt anybody around has devoted more space, in my own writing, in my magazine and in my novels, to the hideousness of Fidel Castro, a man of cruelty and guile. As recently as two years ago I publicly volunteered to drop the trapdoor if ever the courts get around to putting a noose over his neck, in the style of Nuremberg and Eichmann. Now I see in the New York Observer a piece by Richard Brookhiser. He is a renowned biographer and an esteemed and beloved colleague, whose work I began publishing when he was a l5-year-old brat. Having reminded himself of Walt Whitman on the Fugitive Slave Law, he says, "Those slaves were being returned to fellow Americans, with whose interests the Constitution compelled certain compromises, however odious. Today we would return slaves to foreigners to whom it would be illegal to export car parts. The prostration of the United States and its opinion community is total. Where to begin?" By calming down. It's true that it's illegal to export car parts to Cuba, and it's true that it is silly that it should be illegal to do so. We export car parts to North Vietnam and China. And many years ago, when Solzhenitsyn was gasping for life in the Gulag, we decided to export car parts to the Soviet Union. It may have been a bad idea, and may be a bad idea today to export them to China and Vietnam, but to distill from the flotsam of commercial free thought the singularity of Castro's Cuba is to yield to the special opportunism of the kind that better fits Al Gore than Richard Brookhiser. Janet Reno is in many respects a mess, but the position she has taken on the law that governs the question of Elian's father vs. Elian's grand-uncle is not a pulsation of pro-communism in her system. And although it is no doubt true that Clinton would welcome a restoration of free trade with Cuba, so is it true of the majority of the American people, who can live with the consequences of the end of the Cold War without fearing, in the case of Elian Gonzalez, that tergiversation is in the saddle, and we are betraying Walt Whitman. Elian Gonzalez shares the misfortune of the 10 million people on whom Fidel Castro has been inflicted. Ten percent of Cubans were venturesome enough to leave their country and sink their roots in Florida, New Jersey and elsewhere. They are most welcome, but they should not expect American foreign policy to orient itself to the hideousness of Castro. That would give to Castro, via Elian, what he has never been able to accomplish via Karl Marx.

4/26/00
sj.casto@mindspring.com
I am seeking information regarding custody/child support/visitation jusidiction when the custodial parent has moved to another state.

4/19/00
redeyedraven@hotmail.com
i'm looking to meet fathers from the new london,norwich,jewett city,or plainfield areas of connecticut to form a support group.i have been battling my wife,her family,and dcf for over 2 yrs now and everytime i get a step closer they pull something on me to get me stressed out.if you are going through the same thing e-mail me.

4/18/00
mtncn@epix.net
Hello everyone. I would just like to say that the fathers are not the only ones affected by these insane "baby crazed" women. My fiancee has terrible custody of his 4 year old daughter. The mother wanted no part of him, no marriage, no relationship, just a child. Now she decided to move to another state, 3 hours away and the state of Pennsylvania says we can do nothing about it. We are a young couple getting married in 6 months. We don't have a lot of money, and can't afford to hire a high priced lawyer. So for now we sit back and continue to get stiffed by his ex who, as far as I can see, hasn't bought her daughter new clothes in at least a year. While she continues to reap in the benifits of a child support check to use for her own benifit. I get along wonderfully with the child and I only wish she could live with us full time. However, aside from raising her child completely wrong, the mother cannot be deemed unfit. My fiancee loves his daughter very much and I love her as if she were my own. But aside from trying to create a stable family atmosphere for her, what more can we do?

4/12/00
parasol@gte.net
I am excited to be a member of this fathering community, and look forward to doing some research into the field of dadding. I am also putting together an independent website on fathering, and hope to find many useful items, ideas, and inspirations here.

4/8/00
redgreen2@aol.com
Hello! If anyone is being forced into fatherhood, you might get a bang out of this...

3/31/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
WELL "RedGreen2@aol.com" YOU ASKED FOR A FATHER'S OPINION & YOU GOT IT, about YOUR book, (that sucks), plus permotes "Planned Parenthood" "Sperm Banks" and Roe vs Wade IN YOUR LINKS in that book. I WILL NEVER BE A BABY KILLER (as you permote) in your "book", ABORTION IS MURDER. I permote "sole father custody" !. AS FOR THOSE RADICAL LESBIAN FEMINISTS that make & use Court Ordered State & federal Mandates and Orders ordered by SICKO JUDGES wacked out of their skulls & brainwashed by Socialist Utopians & Homo's, THOSE ARE THE ONES ALSO that need to be tared & feathered then SENT BACK to their Island of "LESBO" because they are "CASTOUTS" anyway, ( read Romans, Chapter 1 )...... AND SOON WILL BE AS WELL !!!. YOU MY FRIEND ARE "NOT" PRO FATHER, you are pro death & anti-father, AND your "ON LINE" book SUCKS and so to does your way of THINKING, you wanted "MY" OPINION, you got it, and IF THE TRUTH HURTS, you must be a liberal to, RIGHT BABY KILLER ?. ............................................................................From: RedGreen2@aol.com Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2000, 10:14am To: GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net Subject: Re: RE:YOUR "BOOK" & what I THINK about it................... Gee Gung, don't shit your pants... There are differences of opinon out here you know. Even your God, your bible, is not the only one. And even if it were, would your God like to hear you mouthing off in that crude manner and making such an ass of his self-styled representative? I'll bet there are plenty of right-to-life types out there who can express their views in a more gentlemanly manner and more effectively than filling up people's guestbooks with five-page diatribes. Ever imagine a conversation could be something more than a monologue and bludgeoning your listeners to death? Did Christ go around yelling about tar and feathering people? You assholes that speak in the name of Christ while departing completely from his spirit are the very problem with religion and the main reason why it needs radical reform from top to bottom... So stick in it yr ear, ya old poohbah...

3/31/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
"STILL" HANGING OUT "AT THE CLUBS" ?, STILL POURING DOWN THE DRINKS ?, STILL WONDERING "WHY" YOU ARE IN THE FIX THAT YOU ARE IN, WELL THEN, PUT A LABEL ON IT, BETTER YET, HAVE YOUR "GOVERNMENT POLICY MAKERS" DO IT FOR YOU..................................Alcohol Warning Labels If government is going to put health warning labels on beer, wine and liquor, let's at least have a little truthfulness about the matter! WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause you to wake up with breath that could knock a buzzard off a trash truck at 100 yards. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like an jerk. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to telephone them at 4 in the morning. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the same boring story over and over again until your friends want to put a sock in your mouth. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause you to thay things like thish. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the boss what you REALLY THINK while photocopying your butt at the office Christmas party. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the heck ever happened to your pants (panties) anyway. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause you to roll over in the morning and see something really scary (whose species and/or name you can't remember). WARNING: Consumption of alcohol is the leading cause of inexplicable rug burn on the forehead. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, more handsome, and smarter than some really, really, really big biker guy named "Big Al." WARNING: consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with other members of the opposite sex without spitting. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe you are invisible. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may cause an influx in the time-space continuum, whereby small (and sometimes large) gaps of time may seem to literally disappear. WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may actually CAUSE pregnancy.

3/26/00
ss317@webtv.net
HI my name is Brian. Im a noncostial parent of two wonderfull kids. I have a huge problem though with visitation. My boy 11 & my girl 9 would love to see me more but the X is holding all the cards. The courts & HSS seam to be all for her side. This war has gone on for almost 2 year. Im very angered by the system. can anybody explain why social services dont want to give equal placement. Is it true SS counselers for child support recive incentives and performance bounuses. Ive heard in my county they do. I think my kids have been bought by the FEDS. Can I get some ansers please.

3/21/00
redgreen2@aol.com
Hello GUNG HO CHUCK! Read this and tell me what you think...

3/20/00
redgreen2@aol.com
Hello people! I think that many of you will enjoy this...It started when my ex-girlfriend announced she was pregnant and would have my child whether I liked it or not. I happened to be writing six-line verese at he time and kept going. Good luck to you all...---redgreen2

3/13/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE READING THIS. � There was an atheist couple who had a child.The couple never told their daughter anything about the Lord. One night when the little girl was 5 years old, the parents fought with each other and the dad shot the Mom, right in front of the child. Then, the dad shot himself. The little girl watched it all. She then was sent to a foster home. The foster mother was a Christian and took the child to church. On the first day of Sunday School, the foster mother told the teacher that the girl had never heard of Jesus, and to have patience with her. The teacher held up a picture of Jesus and said, "Does anyone know who this is?" The little girl said, "I do, that's the man who was holding me the night my parents died."............... Don't you think it's time that you also let Jesus Christ into your heart and life as well.......... "I just did" !!!!!.

3/6/00
rogerfgay@yahoo.com
"Initial Review of Michigan Child Support Law" is now available on-line from Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. State Reviews Page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5910/state_reviews.html

3/2/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
WHEN ARE "YOU GUYS" GOING TO STAND UP TO THE SOCIALIST UTOPIANS & THE RADICAL FEMINIST MOVEMENT OUT THERE & WAKE UP & SMELL THE FRIGGING COFFEE, HERE'S WHY............................ Below is PROOF that the FEMINISTS are SUCCEEDING in their complete and total destruction of the American Culture and society. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Want to cause a ruckus and get publicity?? Go downtown with leaflets of the following info, and start burning UNDERWEAR, both men's shorts, AND women's bras!! When the media comes, tell them your story and start handing them out all of the proof of the FRAUD of the whole system!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Sisterhood Is Powerful, Robin Morgan (ed), 1970, p. 537: We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage. Roxanne Dunbar in Female Liberation: How will the family unit be destroyed? ...[T]he demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare. Barbara Ehrenreich in Time: Only with the occasional celebrity crime do we allow ourselves to think the nearly unthinkable: that the family may not be the ideal and perfect living arrangement after all that it can be a nest of pathology and a cradle of gruesome violence,... Even in the ostensibly "functional," nonviolent family, where no one is killed or maimed, feelings are routinely bruised and often twisted out of shape. There is the slap or the put~down that violates a child's shaky sense of self, the cold, distracted stare that drives a spouse to tears, the little digs and rivalries... Gordon Fitch: The nuclear family is a hotbed of violence and depravity. Barbara Findlen, "Is Marriage the Answer?" Ms Magazine, May~June, 1995: Feminists have long criticized marriage as a place of oppression, danger, and drudgery for women. Andrea Dworkin: Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership. "Only when manhood is dead--and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it" (Andrea Dworkin) "The cultural institutions which embody and enforce those interlocked aberrations--for instance, law, art, religion, nation-states, the family, tribe, or commune based on father-right--these institutions are real and they must be destroyed." (Andrea Dworkin) In her polemical report on a trip to Israel, Dworkin condemns what she sees as a theocratic, racist state based on dispossession and theft of Arab land, a place where Orthodox rabbis make most of the legal decisions that affect women's lives. (promo from "Publisher's Weekly") about Andrea Dworkin's book "Life and Death: Unapologetic Writings on the Continuing War Against Women" "In every century, there are a handful of writers who help the human race to evolve. Andrea is one of them."--Gloria Steinem Lenore Walker, after visiting one of the early shelters for battered women, as cited in The Battered Woman, p.195: I was struck by what a beneficial alternative to the nuclear family this arrangement [communal housing and child raising] was for these women and children. Linda Gordon, "Functions of the Family," WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969: � The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together.... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break~up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.... � No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children.... (this would be a great place to include the mother abuse and child murder statistics.) Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people's needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labor, or any external roles, at all. Alice Walker in "Embracing the Dark and the Light," Essence, July 1982, as cited in Andrea Dworkin's Right-Wing Women: I submit that any sexual intercourse between a free man and a human being he owns or controls is rape. "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" -- Catherine MacKinnon, "Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales From The Strange World of Women's Studies" "All men are rapists, and that's all they are ..." --Feminist Marilyn French, People Magazine (Percent of reported rape or near-rape incidents = .07% [The FBI's Uniform Crime Report lists for the year 1996]) ��"God is going to change. We women... will change the world so much that He won't fit anymore." -- Naomi Goldenberg, Changing of the Gods: Feminism and the End of Traditional Religions (quoted at beginning of From Father God to Mother Earth) "We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men..." -- Elizabeth Stanton, One Woman, One Vote, Wheeler, p. 58 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AND HERE IS THE OUTCOME OF THE FEMINIST AGENDA ~~~!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "In an earlier study by Kalter and Rembar at [Children's Psychiatric Hospital, University of Michigan], a sample of 144 child and adolesce atients, whose parents had divorced, presented [for evaluation and treatment] with three most commonly occurring problems: 63% Subjective psychological problem (defined as anxiety, sadness, pronounced moodiness, phobias, and depression) 56% Poor grades or grades substantially below ability and/or recent past performance 43% Aggression toward parents Important features of the subgroup of 32 latency aged girls were in the same order: 69% indicating subjective psychological distress 47% academic problems 41% aggression toward pa ts. Clinical Observations on Interferences of Early Father Absence in the Achievement of Femininity by R. Lohr, C. g, A. Mendell and B. Riemer, Clinical Social Work Journal, V. 17, #4, Winter, 1989 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "In summary, 30% of the children in the present study experienced a marked decrease in their academic performance following parental separation, and this was evident three years later. Access to both parents seemed to be the most protective factor, in that it was associated with better academic adjustment...Moreover, data revealed that noncustodial parents (mostly fathers) were very influential in their children's development...These data also support the interpretation that the more time a child spends with the noncustodial noncustodial parent the better the overall adjustment of the child." Factors Associated with Academic Achievement in Children Following Parental Separation, L. Bisnaire, PhD; P. Firestone, PhD; D. Rynard, MA Sc American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 60(1), January, 1990 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "While in most instances adolescents from recently disrupted household were more negatively affected by their parents' divorce, some findings did identify long-term effects of earlier disruption. Adolescent girls who had experienced parental divorce when they were younger than six or between six and nine years old reported becoming involved with alcohol or drugs in proportions higher than did girls from intact families. Adolescent girls whose experience of divorce occurred before they were six more frequently reported skipping school than did girls from intact families or girls whose parents divorced when they were between the ages of six and nine." "These findings underscore the vulnerability of adolescents whose parents have divorced within the last five years. The impact of the marital disruption was most pronounced among girls, who skipped school more frequently, reported more depress ehavior, and described social support in more negative terms than did boys from recently disrupted homes." The Effects of Marital Disruption on Adolescents: Time as a Dynamic A. Frost, PhD; B. Pakiz, EdM, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 60(4), October, 1990 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "Among teenage and adult populations of females, parental divorce has been associated with lower self-esteem, precocious sexual activity, greater delinquent-like behavior, and more difficulty establishing gratifying, lasting adult heterosexual relationships. It is especially intriguing to note that, in these studies, the parental divorce typically occurred years before any difficulties were observed.. "At the time of the marital separation, when (as is typical) father leaves the family home and becomes progressively less involved with his children over the ensuing years, it appears that young girls experience the emotional loss of father egocentrically as a rejection of them. While more common among preschool and early elementary school girls, we have observed this phenomenon clinically in later elementary school and young adolescent children. Here the continued lack of involvement is experienced as an ongoing rejection by him. Many girls attribute this rejection to their not being pretty enough, affectionate enough, athletic enough, or smart enough to please father and engage him in regular, frequent contacts". "Finally, girls whose parents divorce may grow up without the day to day experience of interacting with a man who is attentive, caring and loving. The continuous sense of being valued and loved as a female seems an especially key element in the development of the conviction that one is indeed femininely lovable. Without this regular source of nourishment, a girl's sense of being valued as a female does not seem to thrive." Long-Term Effects of Divorce on Children: A Developmental Vulnerability Model Neil Kalter, Ph.D., University of Michigan, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 57(4), October, 1987 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "....when the non-custodial parent is perceived as "lost," the young adult is more depressed. When a divorce occurs, the perception of the non-custodial father has been shown to change in a negative direction, while the perception of the mother (whether custodon-custodial) remains relatively stable. " "Because divorce is a process, not an isolated event, the effects of the divorce may be cumulative and early intervention would therefore be beneficial. The continued involvement of the non- custodial parent in the child's life appears crucial in preventing an intense sense of loss in the child.... The importance of the relationship with the non-custodial parent may also have implications for the legal issues of custodial arrangements and visitation. The results of this study indicate that arrangements where both parents are equally involved with the child are optimal. When this type of arrangement is not possible, the child's continued relationship with the non-custodial parent remains essential." Young Adult Children of Divorced Parents: Depression and the Perception of Loss, Rebecca L. Drill, Ph.D., Harvard University. Journal of Divorce, V. 10, #1/2, Fall/Winter 1986 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "The impact of parental divorce and subsequent father absence in the wake of this event has long been thought to affect children quite negatively. For instance, parental divorce and father loss has been associated with difficulties in school adjustment (e.g. Felner, Ginter, Boike, & Cowen), Social Adjustment (e.g. Fry & Grover) and personal adjustment (e.g. Covell & Turnbull)..." "The results of the present study suggest that father loss through divorce is associated with diminished self-concepts in children...at least for this sample of children from the midwestern United States." Children's Self Concepts: Are They Affected by Parental Divorce and Remarriage Thomas S. Parish, Journal of Social Behavior and Personality, 1987, V 2, #4, 559-562 ---------------------------------------------- ---- "It is ironic, and of some interest, that we have subjected joint custody to a level and intensity of scrutiny that was never directed towa the traditional post-divorce arrangement (sole legal and physical custody to the mother and two weekends each month of visiting to the father.) Developmental and relationship theory should have alerted the mental health field to the potential immediate and long range consequences for the child of only seeing a parent four days each month. And yet until recently, there was no particular challenge to this traditional post-divorce parenting arrangement, despite growing evidence that such post-divorce relationships were not sufficiently nurturing or stabilizing for many children and parents." "There is some evidence that in our well-meaning efforts to save children in the immediate post-separation period from anxiety, confusion, and the normative divorce-engendered conflict, we have set the stage in the longer run for the more ominous symptoms of anger, depression, and a deep sense of loss by depriving the child of the opportunity to maintain a full relationship with each parent." Examining Resistance to Joint Custody, Monograph by Joan Kelly, Ph.D. (associate of Judith Wallerstein, Ph.D) From the 1991 Book Joint Custody and Shared Parenting, second edition, Guilford Press, 1991. ---------------------------------------------- ---- 1) BEHAVIORAL DISORDERS/ RUNAWAYS/ HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS/CHEMICAL ABUSERS/ SUICIDES 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (Source: Center for Disease Control) 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census) 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.) 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes (Source: Rainbows for all God's Children.) 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census) RE: Youth Suicide and Divorce/ Single parent Homes: "In a study of 146 adolescent friends of 26 adolescent suicide victims, teens living in single-parent families are not only more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to suffer from psychological disorders, when compared to teens living in intact families." Source: David A. Brent, (et. al.) "Post-traumatic Stress Disorders in Peers of Adolescent Suicide Victims: Predisposing Factors and Phenomenology." Journal of the AMerican Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 34 (1995): 209-215. "Fatherless children are at dramatically greater risk of suicide." Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, D.C., 1993. "Three out of four teenage suicides occur in households where a parent has been absent." Source: Jean Beth Eshtain, "Family Matters: The Plight of America's Children." The Christian Century (July 1993): 14-21. "A family structure index - a composite index based on the annual rate of children involved in divorce and the percentage of families with children present that are female-headed - is a strong predictor of suicide among young adult and adolescent white males." Source: Patricia L. McCall and Kenneth C. Land, "Trends in White Male Adolescent, Young-Adult, and Elderly Suicide: Are Ther Common Underlying Structural Factors?" Social Science Research 23 (1994): 57-81 2) JUVENILE DELINQUENCY/ CRIME/ GANGS 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978) 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988) 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992) California has the nation's highest juvenile incarceration rate and the nation's highest juvenile unemployment rate. Vincent Schiraldi, Executive Director, Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, "What Hallinan's Victory Means," San Francisco Chronicle (12/28/95). These statistics translate to mean that children from a fatherless home are: 5 times more likely to commit suicide. 32 times more likely to run away. 20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders. 14 times more likely to commit rape 9 times more likely to drop out of high school. 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances. 9 times more likely to end up in a state-operated institution. 20 times more likely to end up in prison. Juveniles have become the driving force behind the nation's alarming increases in violent crime, with juvenile arrests for murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault growing sharply in the past decade as pistols and drugs became more available, and expected to continue at the same alarming rate during the next decade. "Justice Dept. Issues Scary Report on Juvenile Crime," San Francisco Chronicle (9/8/95). "Crime Wave Forecast With Teenager Boom," San Francisco Chronicle (2/15/95). Criminal behavior experts and social scientists are finding intriguing evidence that the epidemic of youth violence and gangs is related to the breakdown of the two-parent family. "New Evidence That Quayle Was Right: Young Offenders Tell What Went Wrong at Home," San Francisco Chronicle (12/9/94). 3) TEENAGE PREGNANCY "Daughters of single parents are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a premarital birth, and 92% more likely to dissolve their own marriages. All these intergenerational consequences of single motherhood increase the likelihood of chronic welfare dependency." Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, Atlantic Monthly (April 1993). Daughters of single parents are 2.1 times more likely to have children during their teenage years than are daughters from intact families. The Good Family Man, David Blankenhorn. 71% of teenage pregnancies are to children of single parents. U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services. 4) CHILD ABUSE The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states that there were more than 1,000,000 documented child abuse cases in 1990. In 1983, it found that 60% of perpetrators were women with sole custody. Shared parenting can significantly reduce the stress associated with sole custody, and reduce the isolation of children in abusive situations by allowing both parents' to monitor the children's health and welfare and to protect them. 5) POVERTY "The National Fatherhood Institute reports that 18 million children live in single-parent homes. Nearly 75% of American children living in single-parent families will experience poverty before they turn 11. Only 20% in two-parent families will experience poverty." Melinda Sacks, "Fatherhood in the 90's: Kids of absent fathers more "at risk"," San Jose Mercury News (10/29/95). "The feminization of poverty is linked to the feminization of custody, as well as linked to lower earnings for women. Greater opportunity for education and jobs through shared parenting can help break the cycle." David Levy, Ed., The Best Parent is Both Parents (1993). 6) KIDNAPPING Family abductions were 163,200 compared to non-family abductions of 200-300. The parental abductions were attributed to the parents' disenchantment with the legal system. David Levy, Ed., The Best Parent is Both Parents (1993), citing a report from the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice (May 1990). ---------------------------------------------- ---- Ninety percent of divorced fathers have less than full custody of their children." Jonathan M. Honeycutt, Ph.D.(c), M.P.A., M.A., I.P.C. Director of Research, Clinical & Consulting Psychotherapist, National Institute for Divorce Research, Panama City, Florida. ---------------------------------------------- ---- Children from fatherless homes account for: 63% of youth suicides. (Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services, Bureau of the Census). 71% of pregnant teenagers. (Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services) 90% of all homeless and runaway children. 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988) 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders. (Source: Center for Disease Control). 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger. (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol. 14, p. 403-26, 1978). 71% of all high school dropouts. (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools). 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers. (Source: Rainbows for all God`s Children). 85% of all youths sitting in prisons. (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992). ---------------------------------------------- ---- The State of Fatherhood 37.9% of fathers have no access/visitation rights. (Source: p.6, col.II, para. 6, lines 4 & 5, Census Bureau P-60, #173, Sept 1991.) "40% of mothers reported that they had interfered with the non-custodial father's visitation on at least one occasion, to punish the ex-spouse." (Source: p. 449, col. II, lines 3-6, (citing Fulton) Frequency of visitation by Divorced Fathers; Differences in Reports by Fathers and Mothers. Sanford Braver et al, Am. J. of Orthopsychiatry, 1991.) "Overall, approximately 50% of mothers "see no value in the father`s continued contact with his children...." (Source: Surviving the Breakup, Joan Kelly & Judith Wallerstein, p. 125) Only 11% of mothers value their husband's input when it comes to handling problems with their kids. Teachers & doctors rated 45%, and close friends & relatives rated %16.(Source: EDK Associates survey of 500 women for Redbook Magazine. Redbook, November 1994, p. 36) "The former spouse (mother) was the greatest obstacle to having more frequent contact with the children." (Source: Increasing our understanding of fathers who have infrequent contact with their children, James Dudley, Family Relations, Vol. 4, p. 281, July 1991.) "A clear majority (70%) of fathers felt that they had too little time with their children." (Source: Visitation and the Noncustodial Father, Mary Ann Kock & Carol Lowery, Journal of Divorce, Vol. 8, No. 2, p. 54, Winter 1984.) "Very few of the children were satisfied with the amount of contact with their fathers, after divorce." (Source: Visitation and the Noncustodial Father, Koch & Lowery, Journal of Divorce and Remarriage, Vol. 8, No. 2, p. 50, Winter 1984.) "Feelings of anger towards their former spouses hindered effective involvement on the part of fathers; angry mothers would sometimes sabotage father's efforts to visit their children." (Source: Ahrons and Miller, Am. Journal of Orthopsychiatry, Vol. 63. p. 442, July `93.) "Mothers may prevent visits to retaliate against fathers for problems in their marital or post-marital relationship." (Source: Seltzer, Shaeffer & Charing, Journal of Marriage & the Family, Vol. 51, p. 1015, November 1989.) In a study: "Visitational Interference - A National Study" by Ms. J Annette Vanini, M.S.W. and Edward Nichols, M.S.W., it was found that 77% of non-custodial fathers are NOT able to "visit" their children, as ordered by the court, as a result of "visitation interference" perpetuated by the custodial parent. In other words, non-compliance with court ordered visitation is three times the problem of non-compliance with court ordered child support and impacts the children of divorce even more.Originally published Sept. 1992 ---------------------------------------------- ---- Youth Suicide and Divorce/ Single parent Homes: "In a study of 146 adolescent friends of 26 adolescent suicide victims, teens living in single-parent families are not only more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to suffer from psychological disorders, when compared to teens living in intact families." Source: David A. Brent, (et. al.) "Post-traumatic Stress Disorders in Peers of Adolescent Suicide Victims: Predisposing Factors and Phenomenology." Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 34 (1995): 209-215. "Fatherless children are at dramatically greater risk of suicide." Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington, D.C., 1993. "Three out of four teenage suicides occur in households where a parent has been absent." Source: Jean Beth Eshtain, "Family Matters: The Plight of America's Children." The Christian Century (July 1993): 14-21. "A family structure index -- a composite index based on the annual rate of children involved in divorce and the percentage of families with children present that are female-headed - is a strong predictor of suicide among young adult and adolescent white males." Source: Patricia L. McCall and Kenneth C. Land, "Trends in White Male Adolescent, Young-Adult, and Elderly Suicide: Are Ther Common Underlying Structural Factors?" Social Science Research 23 (1994): 57-81..........

2/10/00
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2/7/00
jdsmith@vallnet.com
MY name is David I have a problem!!! Me and my ex-wife got divorced in 1994 she took my two girls whom I really love alot ,but soon after I meet somone eles and got married I paid c/s .Then in 1997 she brought the kids to my wife and left to go to florida with her husband so my wife said to go to the lawery and get her for abandanment which we did,then she came back five months later and wanted them back so we went though this long drawn out trail and she got the youngest and I got the oldest ,two years later she is wanting to get the oldest to come live with her by giving her gifts ,my wife now has had just about all she can take from my ex. we are now going though another case my ex has married three times since are divorce got a D.U.I lost her D.L come to my house while I was gone and started a fight with my wife .All of this mess is driving me crazy what should I do I have already spent more money than most people would make in two years I cant aford much more ,but she is a bad mother and with the corts today they just asume mothers are better .Please help

2/3/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
DID YOU KNOW THIS ?�?................ Single Mother Households (SMH) are the most dangerous living arrangement to Children. In Single Mother Households, 422 children are fatally abused each year. In Single Father Households, 25 children are fatally abused each year. In Dual Parent Families, 16 children are fatally abused each year. 430 children are killed by firearm accidents each year. Of 430 children killed by firearms, 322 are killed in Single Mother Households. Single Mother Households account for 70% of fatal child abuse and accidental firearm deaths. Source: Donna Shalala, "National Child Abuse Prevention Month" and "Child Maltreatment 1994: Reports from the States to the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect". Patrick Fagan, Heritage Foundation, "THE CHILD ABUSE CRISIS: THE DISINTEGRATION OF MARRIAGE, FAMILY, AND THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY", Rick Thomas, "The Dirty Little Secret: Abuse in Foster Care" _________________________ The Heritage Foundation report "The Child Abuse Crisis: The Disintegration of Marriage, Family, and the American Community," May 15, 1997 notes that: "[due to] ... the disintegration of family and community ... America's infants and young chilren, about 2,000 of whom -- 6 per day -- die each year," and provides the following estimate: Total Children Killed Per Year 2,000 Killed by Mothers � � � � � � � 1,100 55.0% (+ 25.7% = 80.7% SMH) Killed by Stepfathers � � � � � � 250 � 12.5% Killed by Live-In Boyfriends � � � 513 � 25.7% Killed by Biological Fathers � � � 137 � 6.9% This study demonstrates that the least dangerous place for a child is with the father by a margin of over 14 to 1 ( 2000 / 137 = 14.5985 ). Directly or indirectly, the stepfathers and live-in boyfriends are associated with the mother's household and therefore a child is conversely 14 times more likely to be killed in the mother's care. Excluding Stepfathers and Live-in boyfriends, mothers are 8 times as likely to kill a child than the biological father ( 1100 / 137 = 8.0291 ). _________________________ The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states that there were more than 1,000,000 documented child abuse cases in 1990. In 1983, it found that 60% of perpetrators were women ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An epidemic of lies, Backlash Magazine, August 1999, Dennis Austin The use of false allegations in divorce is rapidly becoming an epidemic which is spreading throughout the world. According to the National Shared Parenting Association (Saskatchewan Chapter), in Canada a Children's Aid Society study showed that of 1200 complaints of abuse, 900 involved custody disputes. Of those 900 allegations, two thirds (600) were found to be false. Millions of false allegations In Armin A. Brott's article A system out of control: The epidemic of false allegations of child abuse, he states, "In California, for example, the Victim/Witness program will pay directly to a licensed therapist up to $10,000 per child for counseling - as long as the child was alleged to have been abused. An additional $10,000 is available to counsel the child's mother. The only catch: to get their therapy paid for, the child victim and her mother must see a therapist from an approved list. Guess who directs the mother to a therapist who would be best for her and her child? CPS, of course." These CPS workers often ask leading questions which can distort the children's memories. In their reports to the court, they often ignore evidences that would clear the accused, such as lie detector tests and outside therapist evaluations and rely solely on the child's evaluations which have been skewed by the CPS and the therapists that they recommend. In a report disseminated by the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN) Child Maltreatment 1995 Reports From the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System depicts more than three million reports of alleged child abuse and neglect in 1995 of which two million of those complaints were without foundation. False allegations of abuse in divorce is an epidemic that is sweeping the world. Children are becoming heirs to hatred passed down to them from their parents and because this is all they know, they in turn foster this pain, hatred and deceptiveness in their own adult relationships. The children are crushed under the weight of the system and a parent that is only looking out for their own best interests. _________________________ " ...eighty percent of those polled said they had actually handled a case where they believed there was false accusation of abuse, as in disputes over custody of children, for instance."[News Release, from The Dilenschneider Group Inc., (representing the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers), Three First National Place, 70 West Madison Street, Chicago, IL 60602, 11/91.] -- _________________________ Mary D., Petitioner v. HONORABLE CLARENCE WATT JUDGE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF PUTNAM COUNTY AND GEORGE D., RESPONDENTS, [190 W. Va. 34, ; 438 S.E. 2nd 521; 1992 W. Va. LEXIS 76]. In a candid dissenting opinion, Supreme Court Justice Workman wrote: "We now have a system in which a female parent need only scream child abuse in a loud voice to keep the male parent from seeing a child. Indeed, sexual abuse these days seems to arouse all the hysteria that was associated with witchcraft in yesteryear. In fact, it has even spawned a witch-huntingesque cottage industry, to-wit badly trained, ideological rape trauma experts, rape counselors, bachelor level pseudo-psychologists, social activists, and other assorted species of Jacklegs. I am a firm believer that the best interests of the child are paramount, but that does not mean never allowing a father to see his children when the evidence preponderates on his behalf even though, like an accused witch, he cannot clear himself beyond any shadow of a doubt. Continuous yelling and screaming of an accusation does not make that accusation any more true." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Telling excerpts from The Booming Domestic Violence Industry, August 2, 1999, John McGuire, Massachusetts News "The legislature has loosened the standard. Now the person seeking the order need only state he or she is "in fear" of the other person. It doesn't take a cynic to point out that when a woman is getting a divorce, what she may truly fear is not violence, but losing the house or kids. Under 209A, if she's willing to fib to the judge and say she is "in fear" of her children's father, she will get custody and money and probably the house." Long-term emotional damage to children's fathers -- surely not good for children -- often begins with a restraining order, she says. "A man against whom a frivolous 209A has been brought starts to lose any power in his divorce proceeding. They do start decompensating, and they do start to have emotional issues, and they do start developing post-traumatic stress disorders. They keep replaying in their minds the tape of what happened to them in court. It starts this whole vicious downward cycle. They've been embarrassed and shamed in front of their family and friends, unjustly, and they totally lose any sense of self-control and self-respect. They may indeed become verbally abusive. It's difficult for the court to see where that person was prior to the restraining order." This is a different era from the 1950s, she points out, and many fathers are very close to their children, and bond closely with them from an early age. "In this day and age, we have fathers who take an extremely active role in parenting -- sometimes more than the mother." "I call them mother-dads," she says. In many restraining-order cases, she says, "These fathers are completely frustrated because they can't co-parent their child because of a restraining order. They have been raped of their parenting relationship with their child." While Friend and others see false restraining orders as enormously destructive, and permanently traumatizing, the $24 million domestic violence industry is built on the restraining order. Most of the activities that people get paid for in the domestic violence industry cannot start until a restraining order has been issued. ��~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ False charges whether they are Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, and Child Sexual Abuse cases in divorce and custody proceedings are widespread and rampant. Women are the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of those who employ false charges, add to these the trauma and emotional damage to children, women emerge as the most likely to abuse a child for their own personal gain. In the Mary D., Petitioner (citation omitted) case noted above, we now have an industry that uses these charges and allegations (false or otherwise) to prey on families and children. Their entire goal to collect funding is to "find" (or manufacture if necessary) victims in larger and larger numbers to justify greater and greater levels of funding............. NOW YOU DO, don't you think it is time to rid "America" from the grip of "no-fault divorce" and put the "FATHER" back into the family unit as a whole ?!. I do !!!.

2/3/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
DID YOU KNOW THIS ?�?................ Single Mother Households (SMH) are the most dangerous living arrangement to Children. In Single Mother Households, 422 children are fatally abused each year. In Single Father Households, 25 children are fatally abused each year. In Dual Parent Families, 16 children are fatally abused each year. 430 children are killed by firearm accidents each year. Of 430 children killed by firearms, 322 are killed in Single Mother Households. Single Mother Households account for 70% of fatal child abuse and accidental firearm deaths. Source: Donna Shalala, "National Child Abuse Prevention Month" and "Child Maltreatment 1994: Reports from the States to the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect". Patrick Fagan, Heritage Foundation, "THE CHILD ABUSE CRISIS: THE DISINTEGRATION OF MARRIAGE, FAMILY, AND THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY", Rick Thomas, "The Dirty Little Secret: Abuse in Foster Care" _________________________ The Heritage Foundation report "The Child Abuse Crisis: The Disintegration of Marriage, Family, and the American Community," May 15, 1997 notes that: "[due to] ... the disintegration of family and community ... America's infants and young chilren, about 2,000 of whom -- 6 per day -- die each year," and provides the following estimate: Total Children Killed Per Year 2,000 Killed by Mothers � � � � � � � 1,100 55.0% (+ 25.7% = 80.7% SMH) Killed by Stepfathers � � � � � � 250 � 12.5% Killed by Live-In Boyfriends � � � 513 � 25.7% Killed by Biological Fathers � � � 137 � 6.9% This study demonstrates that the least dangerous place for a child is with the father by a margin of over 14 to 1 ( 2000 / 137 = 14.5985 ). Directly or indirectly, the stepfathers and live-in boyfriends are associated with the mother's household and therefore a child is conversely 14 times more likely to be killed in the mother's care. Excluding Stepfathers and Live-in boyfriends, mothers are 8 times as likely to kill a child than the biological father ( 1100 / 137 = 8.0291 ). _________________________ The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states that there were more than 1,000,000 documented child abuse cases in 1990. In 1983, it found that 60% of perpetrators were women ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An epidemic of lies, Backlash Magazine, August 1999, Dennis Austin The use of false allegations in divorce is rapidly becoming an epidemic which is spreading throughout the world. According to the National Shared Parenting Association (Saskatchewan Chapter), in Canada a Children's Aid Society study showed that of 1200 complaints of abuse, 900 involved custody disputes. Of those 900 allegations, two thirds (600) were found to be false. Millions of false allegations In Armin A. Brott's article A system out of control: The epidemic of false allegations of child abuse, he states, "In California, for example, the Victim/Witness program will pay directly to a licensed therapist up to $10,000 per child for counseling - as long as the child was alleged to have been abused. An additional $10,000 is available to counsel the child's mother. The only catch: to get their therapy paid for, the child victim and her mother must see a therapist from an approved list. Guess who directs the mother to a therapist who would be best for her and her child? CPS, of course." These CPS workers often ask leading questions which can distort the children's memories. In their reports to the court, they often ignore evidences that would clear the accused, such as lie detector tests and outside therapist evaluations and rely solely on the child's evaluations which have been skewed by the CPS and the therapists that they recommend. In a report disseminated by the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN) Child Maltreatment 1995 Reports From the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System depicts more than three million reports of alleged child abuse and neglect in 1995 of which two million of those complaints were without foundation. False allegations of abuse in divorce is an epidemic that is sweeping the world. Children are becoming heirs to hatred passed down to them from their parents and because this is all they know, they in turn foster this pain, hatred and deceptiveness in their own adult relationships. The children are crushed under the weight of the system and a parent that is only looking out for their own best interests. _________________________ " ...eighty percent of those polled said they had actually handled a case where they believed there was false accusation of abuse, as in disputes over custody of children, for instance."[News Release, from The Dilenschneider Group Inc., (representing the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers), Three First National Place, 70 West Madison Street, Chicago, IL 60602, 11/91.] -- _________________________ Mary D., Petitioner v. HONORABLE CLARENCE WATT JUDGE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF PUTNAM COUNTY AND GEORGE D., RESPONDENTS, [190 W. Va. 34, ; 438 S.E. 2nd 521; 1992 W. Va. LEXIS 76]. In a candid dissenting opinion, Supreme Court Justice Workman wrote: "We now have a system in which a female parent need only scream child abuse in a loud voice to keep the male parent from seeing a child. Indeed, sexual abuse these days seems to arouse all the hysteria that was associated with witchcraft in yesteryear. In fact, it has even spawned a witch-huntingesque cottage industry, to-wit badly trained, ideological rape trauma experts, rape counselors, bachelor level pseudo-psychologists, social activists, and other assorted species of Jacklegs. I am a firm believer that the best interests of the child are paramount, but that does not mean never allowing a father to see his children when the evidence preponderates on his behalf even though, like an accused witch, he cannot clear himself beyond any shadow of a doubt. Continuous yelling and screaming of an accusation does not make that accusation any more true." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Telling excerpts from The Booming Domestic Violence Industry, August 2, 1999, John McGuire, Massachusetts News "The legislature has loosened the standard. Now the person seeking the order need only state he or she is "in fear" of the other person. It doesn't take a cynic to point out that when a woman is getting a divorce, what she may truly fear is not violence, but losing the house or kids. Under 209A, if she's willing to fib to the judge and say she is "in fear" of her children's father, she will get custody and money and probably the house." Long-term emotional damage to children's fathers -- surely not good for children -- often begins with a restraining order, she says. "A man against whom a frivolous 209A has been brought starts to lose any power in his divorce proceeding. They do start decompensating, and they do start to have emotional issues, and they do start developing post-traumatic stress disorders. They keep replaying in their minds the tape of what happened to them in court. It starts this whole vicious downward cycle. They've been embarrassed and shamed in front of their family and friends, unjustly, and they totally lose any sense of self-control and self-respect. They may indeed become verbally abusive. It's difficult for the court to see where that person was prior to the restraining order." This is a different era from the 1950s, she points out, and many fathers are very close to their children, and bond closely with them from an early age. "In this day and age, we have fathers who take an extremely active role in parenting -- sometimes more than the mother." "I call them mother-dads," she says. In many restraining-order cases, she says, "These fathers are completely frustrated because they can't co-parent their child because of a restraining order. They have been raped of their parenting relationship with their child." While Friend and others see false restraining orders as enormously destructive, and permanently traumatizing, the $24 million domestic violence industry is built on the restraining order. Most of the activities that people get paid for in the domestic violence industry cannot start until a restraining order has been issued. ��~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ False charges whether they are Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, and Child Sexual Abuse cases in divorce and custody proceedings are widespread and rampant. Women are the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of those who employ false charges, add to these the trauma and emotional damage to children, women emerge as the most likely to abuse a child for their own personal gain. In the Mary D., Petitioner (citation omitted) case noted above, we now have an industry that uses these charges and allegations (false or otherwise) to prey on families and children. Their entire goal to collect funding is to "find" (or manufacture if necessary) victims in larger and larger numbers to justify greater and greater levels of funding............. NOW YOU DO, don't you think it is time to rid "America" from the grip of "no-fault divorce" and put the "FATHER" back into the family unit as a whole ?!. I do !!!.

1/31/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Things like this OPEN UP "MY" EYES as to the cause of most all of the problems going on out there in this "Divorce Racket", so I to wanted to share it with you here (THEN GO READ THE DAD TO DAD SECTION HERE AFTERWARD TO) .........................................................> The greatest deterrent to families in America today is the > destructive attack upon it by no-fault divorce as being > administered by the state courts. I've been working on divorce reform for five years now, by giving support and advice to fathers, by lobbying my state and federal legislature, and by writing letters and giving interviews to the media. One of the things I've learned is that the enemy is a multi-armed monster, like an octopus, and not any one single policy or group of people. So to the extent that we focus our anger on one arm, even if we succeed in chopping it off, the other seven can still kill us. No-fault divorce is one arm of the monster, not the only one, and not the most powerful. > In no-fault divorce you automatically get a divorce. The victim > father, mother and children cannot stop it. It becomes impossible to > keep the family unit together. I went to a hearing once on No-Fault divorce where two of the original group who recommended it to then-Governor Reagan in 1969 explained their motivations. They pointed out that no judge ever denied anyone a divorce back in the fault days - mental cruelty, abandonment, infidelity, and non-support were always among the accepted bases for divorce, and somebody could always make a case for at least one of them. Even if fault divorce were to suddenly make a comeback today, domestic violence would be an acceptable basis, and somebody can always provoke a response from a partner that fits the increasingly broad definition of domestic violence under the law. > The system has made fathers visitors in their children's lives where > instead of spending every day with their children, fathers pick up > their sons and daughters up to a few hours now and then and > sometimes not at all if children are moved out of state. Divorced > fathers are turned into financial institutions serving only to > provide money for the children as the courts deem equitable not > taking into consideration whether it is equitable for the father as > well. Here you engage in non-sequitur, since "fathers as visitors" doesn't flow out of No-Fault divorce, and in fact fathers have superior rights to custody under existing law than we did in the 60's, when there was an explicit preference for maternal custody written into the law. The practice of awarding maternal custody continues, of course, but it's no longer a matter of law as much as a matter of practice. > The destiny of the family is in the hands of possibly three or more > professional strangers whose incentive is the fees to be collected > rather than the whole family interest. This is an interesting and important observation, but you weaken it by ascribing a financial motive. In my experience, psychologists are biased in favor of mothers as a matter of culture and training, and money is not their paramount concern. They probably make as much from bad recommendations as from good ones. > > It was in Russia that the no-fault divorce was first introduced in > 1917 by Lenin (founder of the Communist Party) collaborating with > Joseph Stalin (President). They decided if the stability of the > Russian family was fractured, it would be much easier to "control" > the Russian people. It worked until approximately 1988....(another > revolution). I don't believe this is historically accurate, and if you have some proof I'd like to see it. As I understand it, the marxist government simply made divorce a state matter where it had previously been a church matter. > No-fault divorce was introduced in the United States around > 1969 by our lawyer legislators. I would hate to speculate > what their real motives were. Actually, the legislature and the recommending committee had fairly pure motives: They believed that the acrimony involved in a fault- based divorce proceeding was a bad way to prepare a family for life after divorce. They believed that the family would be better off engaging in some counseling than hiring private eyes to sneak around and catch an unfaithful spouse, usually the man, getting some on the side. The law was signed by Governor Ronald Reagan, and he's no lawyer. > But with an adversarial family law system (divorce wars), we are > allowing divorce lawyers to milk billions of dollars each year from > middle class fathers joining the ranks of "deadbeat Dads" and > children being devastated or in need of counseling. This > adversarial system controlled by lawyers and their bar associations > is destroying our greatest natural resource-our children. What a > price to pay! In fact, the present system is less adversarial than the fault system. > And without fathers in childrens live's we are paying for it today > as witnessed by the violence being displayed by children. This is another good point, and one that deserves to be amplified. > Marriage is a contract between two adults. As such, if the contract > is to be broken, it should be done with least amount of divisiveness > so as to preserve harmony within the family unit. But with no-fault > divorce, It takes only one party to break up the contract with the > possibility of financial reward as a bonus. It used to be marriage > was "Until death do us part," but now it has been changed to "I > do....until I sue." This attitude is being supported by divorce > lawyers. The nugget in here is the part about incentives to divorce. The rest is mixing apples and oranges. While marriage is a contract of sorts, it's not really treated by the law as just another contract, and never has been. Legal scholars can set you straight on that. > To remedy the situation we need to look to rectify one of the > primary sources of the problem. Can your family withstand the > manipulation of divorce lawyers, should divorce be considered? DON'T > BE FOOLED! I'd say we need to rectify the belief that divorce doesn't harm children, and that a good divorce is better than a boring marriage. The narcissistic attitude that I marry in order to achieve personal fulfillement is more to blame than any one detail of the law. > The laws in America today are being written and made by lawyers to > benefit the lawyers monetarily, not the family. The laws being made > today are made by people in power in order to keep them in power and > money. An easy remedy is not to vote for lawyers. This really isn't true, either factually or logically. The majority of legislators are not lawyers, although lawyers are the biggest plurality.In my personal experience, the lawyers in the state legislature are not nearly as bad on these issues as the school teachers, also a big group, the labor organizers, or the psychologists. If we don't vote for lawyers, in most cases we are going to be electing housewives and teachers, and the overall level of IQ is going to drop by about thirty points on average. Your biggest problem is to over-simplify both the problem and the solution.

1/31/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Things like this OPEN UP "MY" EYES as to the cause of most all of the problems going on out there in this "Divorce Racket", so I to wanted to share it with you here (THEN GO READ THE DAD TO DAD SECTION HERE AFTERWARD TO) .........................................................> The greatest deterrent to families in America today is the > destructive attack upon it by no-fault divorce as being > administered by the state courts. I've been working on divorce reform for five years now, by giving support and advice to fathers, by lobbying my state and federal legislature, and by writing letters and giving interviews to the media. One of the things I've learned is that the enemy is a multi-armed monster, like an octopus, and not any one single policy or group of people. So to the extent that we focus our anger on one arm, even if we succeed in chopping it off, the other seven can still kill us. No-fault divorce is one arm of the monster, not the only one, and not the most powerful. > In no-fault divorce you automatically get a divorce. The victim > father, mother and children cannot stop it. It becomes impossible to > keep the family unit together. I went to a hearing once on No-Fault divorce where two of the original group who recommended it to then-Governor Reagan in 1969 explained their motivations. They pointed out that no judge ever denied anyone a divorce back in the fault days - mental cruelty, abandonment, infidelity, and non-support were always among the accepted bases for divorce, and somebody could always make a case for at least one of them. Even if fault divorce were to suddenly make a comeback today, domestic violence would be an acceptable basis, and somebody can always provoke a response from a partner that fits the increasingly broad definition of domestic violence under the law. > The system has made fathers visitors in their children's lives where > instead of spending every day with their children, fathers pick up > their sons and daughters up to a few hours now and then and > sometimes not at all if children are moved out of state. Divorced > fathers are turned into financial institutions serving only to > provide money for the children as the courts deem equitable not > taking into consideration whether it is equitable for the father as > well. Here you engage in non-sequitur, since "fathers as visitors" doesn't flow out of No-Fault divorce, and in fact fathers have superior rights to custody under existing law than we did in the 60's, when there was an explicit preference for maternal custody written into the law. The practice of awarding maternal custody continues, of course, but it's no longer a matter of law as much as a matter of practice. > The destiny of the family is in the hands of possibly three or more > professional strangers whose incentive is the fees to be collected > rather than the whole family interest. This is an interesting and important observation, but you weaken it by ascribing a financial motive. In my experience, psychologists are biased in favor of mothers as a matter of culture and training, and money is not their paramount concern. They probably make as much from bad recommendations as from good ones. > > It was in Russia that the no-fault divorce was first introduced in > 1917 by Lenin (founder of the Communist Party) collaborating with > Joseph Stalin (President). They decided if the stability of the > Russian family was fractured, it would be much easier to "control" > the Russian people. It worked until approximately 1988....(another > revolution). I don't believe this is historically accurate, and if you have some proof I'd like to see it. As I understand it, the marxist government simply made divorce a state matter where it had previously been a church matter. > No-fault divorce was introduced in the United States around > 1969 by our lawyer legislators. I would hate to speculate > what their real motives were. Actually, the legislature and the recommending committee had fairly pure motives: They believed that the acrimony involved in a fault- based divorce proceeding was a bad way to prepare a family for life after divorce. They believed that the family would be better off engaging in some counseling than hiring private eyes to sneak around and catch an unfaithful spouse, usually the man, getting some on the side. The law was signed by Governor Ronald Reagan, and he's no lawyer. > But with an adversarial family law system (divorce wars), we are > allowing divorce lawyers to milk billions of dollars each year from > middle class fathers joining the ranks of "deadbeat Dads" and > children being devastated or in need of counseling. This > adversarial system controlled by lawyers and their bar associations > is destroying our greatest natural resource-our children. What a > price to pay! In fact, the present system is less adversarial than the fault system. > And without fathers in childrens live's we are paying for it today > as witnessed by the violence being displayed by children. This is another good point, and one that deserves to be amplified. > Marriage is a contract between two adults. As such, if the contract > is to be broken, it should be done with least amount of divisiveness > so as to preserve harmony within the family unit. But with no-fault > divorce, It takes only one party to break up the contract with the > possibility of financial reward as a bonus. It used to be marriage > was "Until death do us part," but now it has been changed to "I > do....until I sue." This attitude is being supported by divorce > lawyers. The nugget in here is the part about incentives to divorce. The rest is mixing apples and oranges. While marriage is a contract of sorts, it's not really treated by the law as just another contract, and never has been. Legal scholars can set you straight on that. > To remedy the situation we need to look to rectify one of the > primary sources of the problem. Can your family withstand the > manipulation of divorce lawyers, should divorce be considered? DON'T > BE FOOLED! I'd say we need to rectify the belief that divorce doesn't harm children, and that a good divorce is better than a boring marriage. The narcissistic attitude that I marry in order to achieve personal fulfillement is more to blame than any one detail of the law. > The laws in America today are being written and made by lawyers to > benefit the lawyers monetarily, not the family. The laws being made > today are made by people in power in order to keep them in power and > money. An easy remedy is not to vote for lawyers. This really isn't true, either factually or logically. The majority of legislators are not lawyers, although lawyers are the biggest plurality.In my personal experience, the lawyers in the state legislature are not nearly as bad on these issues as the school teachers, also a big group, the labor organizers, or the psychologists. If we don't vote for lawyers, in most cases we are going to be electing housewives and teachers, and the overall level of IQ is going to drop by about thirty points on average. Your biggest problem is to over-simplify both the problem and the solution.

1/29/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Have you hugged your Congressman and Senator with this yet ? .............. Enforcing equal protection under the law for children and families within and among the several States of the Union. To be introduced in the 106th Congress, Second Session 106th CONGRESS 2d Session TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES LEGISLATION TYING FEDERAL TITLE IV-D TANF AND OTHER WELFARE FUNDING TO STATE RECOGNITION OF FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S RIGHTS Whereas the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution provides that the States may not abridge equal protection under the law to the residents and citizens of the several states; Whereas the US Supreme Court has repeatedly held that parenting one's children is a fundamental liberty interest protected under the US Constitution; Whereas the States have, for many years, continually violated this provision of the US Constitution in the administration of family law, specifically in the (1) denial of the right of trial by jury when custody of and visitation with children are at issue, (2) routine granting of injunctive relief in the form of preventing parent/child contact, (3) denying the fundamental liberty interests of both children and parents in the award of "sole custody" without a predicate finding of harm in the interaction between children and parents in the instant case, or finding such presumed harm based on insupportable and intangible evidence; Whereas the Citizens of the several States, having petitioned their legislatures and elected officials for relief and having been unable to secure same; Whereas there are 20 Million children who are disenfranchised from one of their parents living today in the United States, and nearly 60% of all children born today are either born out of wedlock or will suffer a divorce in their childhood years; Whereas it has been established and proven that the best environment for the rearing of children is one in which both parents are present and fully involved; Whereas it is vital to the future health of our nation that the children residing within it be protected to the fullest extent of the law; Therefore let it be enacted that: The several States should immediately introduce and pass legislation that provides for the full protection of parent's and children's rights, including the right of each biological or adoptive parent to personally discharge their parental responsibilities without undue governmental interference, in preference to any asset transfer payment (whether known as "child support" or otherwise), and no State may confiscate or order transferred any item of material value for the support of children born to or adopted by said parents so long as both parents are willing and able to personally discharge these responsibilities; That such rights may be abrogated through injunctive or other relief only by a showing, supported by evidence meeting the threshold of admissibility in a court of competent jurisdiction, of imminent harm to the child or children involved, an actual prior act of neglect or abuse adjudicated as such in a trial wherein all due process rights are accorded the accused, or willful or negligent abandonment of shared parenting, which finding by a court of competent jurisdiction shall be supported by competent evidence and wherein the accused shall have enjoyed his full rights to due process of law; That absent such a showing, supported by competent evidence, any parent attempting to thwart or otherwise interfere with the rights of the other parent to a full and close relationship with the child shall be deemed to have committed a prima facie act of child abuse; That the State may not impose a standard of material entitlement or duty of care for divorced or never-married couples that is higher than that applied to married or single adoptive parents; That the State shall provide that an accusation or other allegation of neglect or abuse, made by one parent against the other, in any proceeding for the determination of custody or parenting time, where the accusing parent knew or should have known that such accusation or allegation was false, for the purpose of prejudicing or inducing a court against the presumption of equal shared parenting shall be deemed prima facie proof of an act of child abuse rendering the accusing parent unfit to be a custodian of the child. That any court denying equal shared parenting shall document in its findings and judgment the imminent or actual material harm claimed as the basis in said judgment, or the abandonment of shared parenting by the party being enjoined, and such finding shall be based on competent evidence; That any judgment denying shared parenting without said documentation and findings based on competent evidence shall be, by a statutory rebuttable presumption, deemed error, reversible on appeal. States which fail to comply by December 31, 2000 with the enactment of legislation protecting the rights set forth above shall be subject to the following: For each year in which such enactment is unfulfilled, Title IV-D, TANF, and all other federal matching funds for welfare purposes shall be reduced successively each fiscal year by a sum of 20% of the full amount of such entitlement to which the State would otherwise qualify for in each fiscal year, such that by January 1st, 2005 States not in compliance shall receive no Title IV-D and TANF funds; Funds withheld under this section shall be redistributed proportionately among the States in compliance with the above provisions; Each State shall certify to the administrator of Title IV-D and TANF funds their compliance through the submission of the statute or statutes that provide for these protections, and by reports from each state court administrator that the courts of that state are in practical and actual compliance with the requirements hereinabove set forth. This legislation shall go into effect upon its enactment into law. [ you should you know ] Right ?!.

1/29/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Have you hugged your Congressman and Senator with this yet ? .............. Enforcing equal protection under the law for children and families within and among the several States of the Union. To be introduced in the 106th Congress, Second Session 106th CONGRESS 2d Session TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES LEGISLATION TYING FEDERAL TITLE IV-D TANF AND OTHER WELFARE FUNDING TO STATE RECOGNITION OF FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S RIGHTS Whereas the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution provides that the States may not abridge equal protection under the law to the residents and citizens of the several states; Whereas the US Supreme Court has repeatedly held that parenting one's children is a fundamental liberty interest protected under the US Constitution; Whereas the States have, for many years, continually violated this provision of the US Constitution in the administration of family law, specifically in the (1) denial of the right of trial by jury when custody of and visitation with children are at issue, (2) routine granting of injunctive relief in the form of preventing parent/child contact, (3) denying the fundamental liberty interests of both children and parents in the award of "sole custody" without a predicate finding of harm in the interaction between children and parents in the instant case, or finding such presumed harm based on insupportable and intangible evidence; Whereas the Citizens of the several States, having petitioned their legislatures and elected officials for relief and having been unable to secure same; Whereas there are 20 Million children who are disenfranchised from one of their parents living today in the United States, and nearly 60% of all children born today are either born out of wedlock or will suffer a divorce in their childhood years; Whereas it has been established and proven that the best environment for the rearing of children is one in which both parents are present and fully involved; Whereas it is vital to the future health of our nation that the children residing within it be protected to the fullest extent of the law; Therefore let it be enacted that: The several States should immediately introduce and pass legislation that provides for the full protection of parent's and children's rights, including the right of each biological or adoptive parent to personally discharge their parental responsibilities without undue governmental interference, in preference to any asset transfer payment (whether known as "child support" or otherwise), and no State may confiscate or order transferred any item of material value for the support of children born to or adopted by said parents so long as both parents are willing and able to personally discharge these responsibilities; That such rights may be abrogated through injunctive or other relief only by a showing, supported by evidence meeting the threshold of admissibility in a court of competent jurisdiction, of imminent harm to the child or children involved, an actual prior act of neglect or abuse adjudicated as such in a trial wherein all due process rights are accorded the accused, or willful or negligent abandonment of shared parenting, which finding by a court of competent jurisdiction shall be supported by competent evidence and wherein the accused shall have enjoyed his full rights to due process of law; That absent such a showing, supported by competent evidence, any parent attempting to thwart or otherwise interfere with the rights of the other parent to a full and close relationship with the child shall be deemed to have committed a prima facie act of child abuse; That the State may not impose a standard of material entitlement or duty of care for divorced or never-married couples that is higher than that applied to married or single adoptive parents; That the State shall provide that an accusation or other allegation of neglect or abuse, made by one parent against the other, in any proceeding for the determination of custody or parenting time, where the accusing parent knew or should have known that such accusation or allegation was false, for the purpose of prejudicing or inducing a court against the presumption of equal shared parenting shall be deemed prima facie proof of an act of child abuse rendering the accusing parent unfit to be a custodian of the child. That any court denying equal shared parenting shall document in its findings and judgment the imminent or actual material harm claimed as the basis in said judgment, or the abandonment of shared parenting by the party being enjoined, and such finding shall be based on competent evidence; That any judgment denying shared parenting without said documentation and findings based on competent evidence shall be, by a statutory rebuttable presumption, deemed error, reversible on appeal. States which fail to comply by December 31, 2000 with the enactment of legislation protecting the rights set forth above shall be subject to the following: For each year in which such enactment is unfulfilled, Title IV-D, TANF, and all other federal matching funds for welfare purposes shall be reduced successively each fiscal year by a sum of 20% of the full amount of such entitlement to which the State would otherwise qualify for in each fiscal year, such that by January 1st, 2005 States not in compliance shall receive no Title IV-D and TANF funds; Funds withheld under this section shall be redistributed proportionately among the States in compliance with the above provisions; Each State shall certify to the administrator of Title IV-D and TANF funds their compliance through the submission of the statute or statutes that provide for these protections, and by reports from each state court administrator that the courts of that state are in practical and actual compliance with the requirements hereinabove set forth. This legislation shall go into effect upon its enactment into law. [ you should you know ] Right ?!.

1/28/00
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WHAT DOES THE TERM MEAN "TWISTED SISTER & RADICAL LESBIAN BITCH FEMINIST" MEAN, in short here, this is what it means...............read on ; Friday, 28 January 2000 Fathers Count Act will hurt women, kids By Patricia Ireland Who would disagree that in raising children fathers count? Certainly not the National Organization for Women. We've been urging for more than 30 years that fathers take equal responsibility in caring for their children. But the Fathers Count Act passed by the House of Representatives, and the Responsible Fatherhood bill pending in the Senate, would promote marriage as a one-size-fits-all solution to poverty and strengthen a movement whose goals include lowering or completely avoiding child-support payments. The House bill would funnel $140 million or more to non-profit groups for support services to non-custodial fathers, even though Congress has cut already inadequate funds for similar services to custodial mothers. And the fathers don't even have to be poor to get these benefits, only their kids do. So middle-class fathers can get job training and placement, and other services unavailable to poor mothers who need and would no doubt love to have them. The United States does indeed have a serious problem, when one of four children are living in poverty. But Congress must reject the twisted logic that the best way to take care of poor children is to fund programs for fathers who do not have day-to-day responsibility for raising their kids and that the cure for poverty is marriage, regardless of family circumstances. Many women end up in poverty because they are forced to flee abusive husbands or partners. According to a 1999 Taylor Institute report, five major research studies have found that between 20 percent and 30 percent of welfare recipients are experiencing domestic violence. A 1996 institute report cited other studies that concluded that from 50 percent to 71 percent of recipients currently face domestic violence, while an additional 19 percent to 32 percent faced such violence in the past. Despite this record, Congress is telling poor women that the way out of poverty is a husband. The Fathers Count Act would fund only programs that ``promote marriage.�� But pressuring a poor mother to marry - without regard to a man's character or violent behavior - could do more harm than good. Besides, if marriage really did cure poverty, it would not take an act of Congress to promote it. With the Fathers Count Act's requirement of promoting marriage, funds would almost certainly be awarded to groups that are part of the self-described fathers' rights movement, which is no friend to children or women. For example, the National Fatherhood Initiative, which would likely receive $5 million from Congress for a national media campaign, is headed by Wade Horn, a fellow at the ultraconservative Hudson Institute. According to Progressive magazine (Nov. 28, 1999), he advocates ``explicit, preferential treatment for marriage in the distribution of discretionary funds such as public housing and Head Start slots.�� In other words, Horn would punish poor kids who do not live with married parents, whatever the reason. And dads who want to lower or completely avoid child support payments can visit the Fathers' Rights Coalition Web site, where one article brags about a non-custodial father who owned his own business and earned $400,000 in one year but still managed to reduce his child support payment from $250 to $150 per month. The Fathers' Rights Coalition may also be awarded money if the Fathers Count Act becomes law. With these pending bills, Congress seems to be saying, not just that fathers count, but that they count more than mothers and more than children. Congress needs to make an honest commitment to eradicating poverty, but the current fatherhood fad will do little to help impoverished children. Instead of looking back to the 1950s and longing for the days of the fictional Ozzie and Harriet, Congress would do well to look for answers that will work in the future. Patricia Ireland is president of the National Organization for Women, 733 15th Street NW, Second Floor, Washington, D.C. 20045. This essay was distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Information Services ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ and you "GUYS" wonder why you are getting shafted in the Family Court System !!!. It's because of THESE "Socialist Utopians" that you are !!.

1/27/00
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With the increasing commonality of divorce involving children, a pattern of abnormal behavior has emerged that has received little attention. The present paper defines the Divorce Related Malicious Mother Syndrome. Specific nosologic criteria are provided with abundant clinical examples. Given the lack of scientific data available on the disorder, issues of classification, etiology, treatment, and prevention appear ripe for investigation. INTRODUCTION A divorced man gains custody of his children and his ex-wife burns down his home. A woman in a custody battle buys a cat for her offspring because her divorcing husband is highly allergic to cats. A mother forces her children to sleep in a car to "prove" their father has bankrupted them. The actions illustrate a pattern of abnormal behavior that has emerged as the divorce rate involving children has grown. Today, half of all marriages will end in divorce (Beal and Hochman, 1991). The number of children involved in divorce has grown dramatically (eg., Hetherington and Arastah, 1988) as well. While the majority of such cases are "settled" from a legal perspective, outside the courtroom the battle continues. The media have spent considerable effort raising public awareness about the problem posed by divorced fathers who do not provide court-ordered child support payments. Hodges (1991) has noted that less than 20 percent of divorced fathers provide child support payments three years after their divorce. Research on the decline of women's economic status following (eg., Hernandez, 1988; Laosa, 1988) has contributed to recent legislation to address the "Deadbeat Dad" problem. While the media correctly portray the difficulties imposed upon women and children by the "Deadbeat Dad" phenomenon, the cameras have yet to capture the warfare waged by a select group of mothers against child support paying, law-abiding fathers. Everyday, attorneys and therapists are exposed to horror stories in which vicious behaviors are lodged against innocent fathers and children. Unfortunately, there are no scientific data on the subject. Similarly, the clinical literature has relatively ignored the problem.. A noted exception can be found in the clinical writings of Gardner (1987, 1989) who has provided excellent descriptions of the Parental Alienation Syndrome. Here, a custodial parent successfully engages in a variety of manoeuvres to alienate the child from the non-residential parent. Once successfully manipulated, the child becomes "�preoccupied with deprecation and criticism of a parent-denigration that is unjustified and/or exaggerated" (Gardner, 1989 p. 226). In the typical case of Parental Alienation Syndrome, both mother and child engage in an array of abnormal actions against the father. Gardner views "brainwashing" as a concept "too narrow" (Gardner, 1989) to capture the psychological manipulation involved in turning a child against his/her non-residential parent. While Gardner's pioneering descriptions of the Parental Alienation Syndrome provide an important contribution to our understanding of divorce-related child-involved hostilities, the present paper is concerned with a more global abnormality. As noted in the examples provided in the beginning of this manuscript, serious attacks on divorcing husbands take place which are beyond merely manipulating the children. Further, these actions include a willingness by some mothers to violate societal law. Finally, there are mothers who persistently engage in malicious behaviors designed to alienate their offspring from the father, despite being unable to successfully cause alienation. In sum, these cases do not meet the criteria for Parental Alienation Syndrome. Nevertheless, they portray a serious abnormality. The purpose of the present paper is to define and illustrate this more global abnormality with the hope of generating increased scientific and clinical investigation of this problem. DEFINITION The present section provides a beginning definition of the Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome, which has been derived from clinical and legal cases. As in all initial proposals, it is anticipated that future research will lead to greater refinement in the taxonomic criteria. The proposed definition encompasses four major criteria, as follows: 1. A mother who unjustifiably punishes her divorcing or divorced husband by: a. Attempting to alienate their mutual children from the father b. Involving others in malicious actions against the father c. Engaging in excessive litigation 2. The mother specifically attempts to deny her child(ren): a. Regular uninterrupted visitation with the father b. Uninhibited telephone access to the father c. Paternal participation in the child(ren)'s school life and extracurricular activities 3. The pattern is pervasive and includes malicious acts towards the husband including: a. Lying to the children b. Lying to others c. Violations of law 4. The disorder is not specifically due to another mental disorder, although a separatemental disorder may co-exist. CLINICAL ILLUSTRATIONS In this section, I will provide clinical illustrations for each criterion using the reference numbers provided above. As criteria 1-3 are behavior specific to the Malicious Mother Syndrome, I will provide a series of clinical examples. The fourth criterion which addresses the relationship of the proposed syndrome to other mental disorders, will be discussed more generally. Criterion 1A: Alienating the Children The range of actions taken by a mother to attempt to alienate her children from their father is impressive. For example: One mother lied to her children that she could no longer buy food because their father had spent all of their money on women in topless bars. A doctor's wife forced her 10-year-old son to apply for federally funded free school lunches to delude the boy that his "daddy has made us poor." A woman who for years was very close to the children in a custody battle, was asked by their mother to give up neutrality and join her campaign against the father to "dance on his grave." When the friend refused to give up her neutrality, the mother falsely informed her children that their father was having an affair with this woman. These behaviors, if successful, could lead a child to not only hate the father, but perhaps go years without seeing him. As Cartwright (1993) has noted: "The goal of the alienator is crystalline: to deprive the lost parent, not only of the child's time, but of the time of childhood." (p.210). Criterion 1B: Involving Others in Malicious Actions The second component of the first major criterion where the mother attempts to punish the husband, involves manipulating other individuals to engage in malicious acts against the father. Examples of this kind are as follows: During a custody battle, a mother lied to a therapist about the father's behavior. The therapist, having never spoken with the father, appeared as an "expert" witness to inform the Judge that the mother should be the primary residential parent and that the father needed to be in therapy. One angry mother manipulated teenagers to leave anonymous threatening notes at the ex-husband's home. A mother who had lost legal custody of her children, manipulated a secretary at the child's school to assist in kidnapping the child. In the above examples, it is important to note that the person manipulated by the angry mother has, in a way, been "alienated" against the divorcing husband. Typically, the individual "duped" takes on a righteous indignation, contributing to a rewarding climate for the mother initiating malicious actions. Criterion 1C: Excessive Litigation There is little question that either party in a divorce or custody proceeding is entitled to appropriate legal representation and action. Individuals suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome, however, attempt to punish the divorcing husband by engaging in excessive litigation. A belligerent and unreasonable mother verbally attacked her ex-husband whenever she saw him. Over time, his response was to ignore her. She then took him to court, asking the judge to require the ex-husband to talk with her. One mother told a judge that her daughter was not really her divorcing husband's child One woman refused to stop attacking her ex-husband through the courts, despite numerous attorneys being fired or voluntarily leaving the case. Over a three-year period, seven different attorneys were utilized. Data exist which can help in determining the range of excessive litigation. For example, Koel et al. (1988) report on the frequency of post-divorce litigation in a sample of 700 families. Their data indicate that only 12.7% of families file one post-divorce petition to the court, whereas less than 5 percent file two or more petitions (Koel et al. 1988); less than one percent file four or more petitions. Criterion 2A: Denying Regular Visitation Experts are in relative agreement that regular and uninterrupted visitation with the non-residential parent is desirable and beneficial for children, except in extreme circumstances (Hodges, 1991). In fact, some states, such as Florida, have laws written to reflect this view (Keane, 1990). Unfortunately, even when the father and children have legal rights to visitation, individuals with Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome continue to interfere with it. A mother who previously attacked her ex-husband physically during visitation transfers of the children, refused to provide the children when the ex-husband had the police attend to monitor exchanges. When one divorced father arrived to pick up his children for visitation, the mother arranged for her and the children to be elsewhere so that the father could not visit with the children. One mother had her physically intimidating boyfriend assault her ex-husband when he came to pick up his children for visitation. The President of the Council for Children's Rights (Washington, D.C.) notes that such alienation is considered a form of child abuse (Levy, 1992). Unfortunately, the police typically avoid involving themselves in such situations. Furthermore, unless a victimized father is financially capable of returning to court on an ongoing basis, there is little that can be done to prevent such mothers' behavior. Finally, even when such cases are brought to trial, the courts are often inadequate in supporting fathers' visitation rights. (Commission on Gender Bias in the Judicial System, 1992). Given the physical absence of one parent, the telephone plays an important role in maintaining the bond between child and non-residential parent. Individuals suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome engage in an array of actions designed to circumvent telephone access. A father called to speak to his children and was told that they were not at home when, in fact, he could hear their voices in the background. When one father called to speak with his children, the mother put him on "hold," informed no one, and then left him on hold. Knowing that the children's father was away on vacation, one mother encouraged them to leave several messages on his answering machine to call back immediately only if he would like some additional visitation time with his children. Some fathers find the alienation attempts so painful and fruitless that they eventually are extinguished from calling their children; they simply "give up." Placed in a no-win scenario, the father's "abandonment" (Hodges, 1991) unfortunately achieves the precise result aimed for by the individual suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome. Criterion 2C: Denying Participation in Extra-Curricular Activities An integral part of the process of maintaining one's bond with one's child is to participate in activities that one did before the parents separated. School plays, team sports, and religious events are just some of the type of activities of importance. Malicious Mothers frequently engage in manoeuvres designed to prevent participation in these activities. One father was deliberately given the wrong date and time for an important event for the child. The child was asked by the mother, "I wonder why your father didn't want to come to see you today"? One mother refused to provide the father with any information about any extra-curricular activities in which the children were engaged. Prior to a child's soccer game, one mother told many of the team parents disparaging falsehoods about the visiting father. When he came to watch his son's soccer game, many of these parents looked at him with angry eyes, refused to talk with him, and walked away when he moved toward them. Malicious Mothers who engage in such behaviors rarely have to face penalties for such actions. Judges, attorneys, and policemen cannot involve themselves in every instance of blocked paternal access. Furthermore, most fathers cannot afford the financial requirements involved. As such, the cycle of access interference perpetuates itself. Criterion 3A: Malicious Lying to the Children Given their developmental status, children in a disputed divorce situation are quite vulnerable. When one parent decides to attack the other by lying to the children, examples of this type of malicious behavior may include some of the following: One divorcing mother told her very young daughter that father was "not really" her father, even though he was. An eight-year-old girl was forced by her mother to hand unpaid bills to her father when he visited because the mother had falsely told the daughter that the father had not provided any economic means of support to the family. One mother falsely told her children that their father had repeatedly beat her up in the past. These examples of malicious lying can be contrasted with the more subtle manoeuvres typically seen in Parental Alienation Syndrome, such as "virtual allegations" (Cartwright, 1993). Here, the mother setting up a Parental Alienation Syndrome may hint that abuse may have occurred, whereas the individual suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome falsely claims that abuse has actually occurred. Criterion 3B: Malicious Lying to Others Individuals suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome may engage a wide range of other individuals in their attacks upon the ex-husband. However, with this particular criterion, the individual with Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome specifically lies to other individuals in the belligerence against the father. Some examples include the following: One furious mother called the president of the (1500 employee) workplace of her divorcing husband, claiming falsely that he was using business property for person gain and was abusing their mutual children from his work location. One woman falsely told state officials that her ex-husband was sexually abusing their daughter. The child was immediately taken away from him and his access to her was denied. During the course of a custody dispute, one mother falsely informed the guardian, who was investigating the parenting skills of each parent, that the father had physically abused her. Snyder (1986) has reported on the difficulty imposed upon legal authorities when confronted with someone who is an excellent liar. Consistent with research on the inability of "specialists" to detect lying (Ekman and O'Sullivan, 1991), a skilled fabricator can be a compelling witness in the courtroom (Snyder, 1986). While sometimes seen in borderline personalities, Snyder (1986) notes that pathological lying (Pseudologia Fantastica) is not restricted to that particular character disorder. Criterion 3C: Violating Law to Attack the Husband Individuals suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome, have few, if any boundaries in their campaign against the divorcing husband. Violations of law are common in many cases, although the laws broken may be relatively minor. However, in some cases, the violations of law may be quite serious. One woman deliberately drove her automobile into the house of the ex-husband where their mutual children resided. In the midst of a custody battle, one woman broke into the residence of her divorcing husband and stole important business papers. An angry divorcing mother called a Christian evangelical television station and pledged $1,000, giving the name, address and phone number of her divorcing Jewish husband as the pledgee. The above descriptions may remind the reader of certain personality disorders (eg., antisocial, borderline, sadistic) but these behaviors may be demonstrated by individuals with Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome who do not appear to meet official diagnostic criteria for an Axis II disorder. Further, in each of the four examples provided above, none of the Malicious Mothers involved was sentenced for such behavior by a Judge. Criterion 4: Not Due to Another Disorder In assessing the Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome, it is important to note that many of the above clinical examples seem to have occurred in individuals who had no prior mental disorder diagnosis or treatment. In fact, one mother who engaged in extreme maliciousness toward her divorcing husband had several mental health professionals testify that she was not suffering from any type of mental disorder. In the author's experience, for each mental disorder that might come to mind to account for some of this behavior, an exceptional case presents. For example, in some cases, an Adjustment Disorder might seem an appropriate diagnosis, yet one woman still denied her ex-husband visitation 10 years after the divorce. Other cases might suggest a possibility of a personality disorder diagnosis, yet one woman who repeatedly violated the law in attacking her ex-husband, received no personality disorder diagnosis despite being evaluated by masters level and doctoral level examiners. In some instances, Intermittent Explosive Disorder might be considered, yet the anger for many of the mothers does not appear to be intermittent. Finally, the reader should appreciate that while diagnostic accuracy for certain psychiatric difficulties is not as good as one would like (eg., the personality disorders, see Turkat, 1990), the problem is compounded in family law where incompetent mental health examiners sometimes become involved in the judicial process (Turk, 1993). Clearly, the relationship between Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome and other mental disorders is a complex one which requires significant investigation. DISCUSSION The above description of the Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome raises a variety of important clinical, legal and scientific issues. From a clinical perspective, families that involve a Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome are subject to serious episodes of stress and distress. Yet, there is no scientific evidence on how to treat this phenomenon. It is particularly compromised by the fact that many of these cases that appear to meet the proposed diagnostic criteria deny that there is anything wrong with them. An additional difficulty is that many therapists are unaware of this pattern of malicious behavior (Heinz and Heinz, 1993). As such, there are malicious therapists who are "fooled" by such cases and, as noted earlier, will come to court testifying that there is nothing wrong with the mother involved. From a legal perspective, there are some attorneys who may unintentionally encourage this type of behavior (Gardner, 1989). On the other hand, there are some attorneys who deliberately encourage such behavior as the financial rewards for them are time dependent. In other words, the more involved the litigation process, the greater the profits for the attorney. (Grotman and Thomas, 1990). However, even for the subset of attorneys for whom this may be true, there is a point of diminishing returns. Furthermore, independent of economic considerations, many who become involved with family law courtrooms find that these types of cases are not handled well (Greif, 1985; Levy, 1992). The woman who is not disturbed "enough" to lose custody of her children in the courtroom will not have money denied to her because she engages in this behavior; nor will she go to jail. Thus, many clients report significant frustration when they and their children are exposed to this type of behavior, and the courts seem to do little. In a review of pertinent law literature on bias against men in family law proceedings, Tillitski (1992) concluded that there is widespread discrimination. This is well illustrated by one family law Judge's statement that, "I ain't never seen the calves follow the bulls, they always follow the cow; therefore, I always give custody to the mamas." (Commission on Gender Bias in the Judicial System, 1992, p. 741). Similarly, it is noted that visitation rights of fathers are not enforced as rigidly as are child support orders (Commission on Gender Bias in the Judicial System, 1992.) Such bias against men in family law proceedings results in a unique group of fathers who unintentionally become relatively helpless victims of the system (Tillitski, 1992). This situation would seem to reinforce much of the vicious behavior displayed by women suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome. The issue of sex distribution of the disorder certainly needs to be addressed. The overwhelming majority of custodial parents are female (Commission on Gender Bias in the Judicial System, 1992). Gardner (1989) has noted that Parental Alienation Syndrome appears most commonly in females, although it is possible for a male who has custody of the children to engage in the same type of alienating behaviors. The author's experience with Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome is similar to Gardner's. However, the present writer has yet to see a case of a father engaging in all of the criteria listed. This does not mean that it is not possible for there to be a "Malicious Father" Syndrome. In fact, Shephard (1992) reports that there is significant abuse of some custodial mothers by non-residential fathers. On the other hand, it should be noted that there are females who are required to pay child support, but we have yet to hear about "Deadbeat Moms." Given at the present time that a case in which the father met all of the criteria for Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome has yet to be documented, it appears advisable to await scientific evidence to guide issues of nosologic labelling. How prevalent is the Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome? The answer is unknown. Gardner (1989) reports that approximately 90 percent of all custody battles involve some aspects of parental alienation. Further, Kressel (1985) reviewed data indicating that up to 40 percent of maternal custodians denied visitation to the ex-husband in order to punish him. Relatedly, Arditti (1992) reported that 50 percent of a sample of divorce fathers (N=125) indicated that visitation was interfered with by the mother. While aspects of parental alienation may be common, it is highly unlikely that such a percentage of maternal custodians would meet all of the criteria for Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome. In regard to incidence, it would appear through the title of this syndrome that the malicious behavior is precipitated by the divorce process. However, this is clearly an empirical question. While the malicious actions may first be noted during a divorce process, it is possible that maliciousness may have been present earlier but undetected. Research on pre-divorce parental conflict (Enos and Handal, 986) supports this speculation. Relatedly, it may also be that there are some cases of pre-existing mental disorder that have not been discovered until the stress of the divorce itself unfolds. Finally, it should be noted that research on the nature of post-divorce family functioning is beginning to emerge. Some data exist on the role of parental conflict in children's post divorce functioning (eg. Frost and Pakiz, 1990; Furstenberg et al., 1987; Healy, Malley and Steward, 1990; Kudek, 1988), but studies have yet to appear on the more extreme cases of Parental Alienation Syndrome and Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome. The Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome represents an important societal phenomenon. The disorder affects children, parents, attorneys, judges, guardians, mental health professionals and others. Until this phenomenon is explored more thoroughly in the scientific and clinical literature, the problems imposed by individuals suffering from Divorce-Related Malicious Mother Syndrome will continue to plague us. Hopefully, the present manuscript will stimulate research so that clinical and legal management guidelines can be developed. REFERENCES Arditti, J.A. (1992). Factors relating to custody, visitation and child support for divorce fathers: An exploratory analysis. J. Div. Remarr. 17:23-42. Beal, E.W., and Hockman, D. (1991). 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(eta.), Impact of Divorce, Single Parenting and Step-Parenting on Children, Lawrence Erlbaum, Hillsdale, N.J., pp. 23-49. Shepard, N. (1992). Child-visiting and domestic abuse. Child Welf. 71:357-367. Snyder, S. (1986). Pseudologia Fantastica in the borderline patient. Am. J. Psychiatry 143:1287-1289. Tillitski C.J. (1992). Fathers and child custody: Issues, trends and implications for counseling. J. Ment. Health Counsel. 14:351-361. Turkat I.D. (1990). The Personality Disorders: A Psychological Approach to Clinical Management, Pergamon, New York. Turkat, I.D. (1993). Questioning the mental health experts' custody report. Am. J. Fam. Law 7:175-179.

1/21/00
ghop@hovac.com
I need help locating my sons' father. My son is getting ready to turn 18 on Feb 12. He wants to meet him. If anyone knows Mark Atkin who is from Flint Mich. and was in the Navy station at NAS Marimar San Diego, Please let him know and have him contact his son at ghop@hovac.com Thank you L.K.

1/17/00
Home4u@prodigy.net
I have always been a firm believer in Republican and Fathers rights. However, I am concerned at the anger I read here. Bless each of you and pray to forgive and live. Children need their fathers to be healthy & encouraging not angry & demanding.

1/16/00
bkc@todays-tech.com
Do you have a toll free number?

1/13/00
framarinspections@iWon.com
This site is fantastic! I'll be sure to pass it on. Very helpful; we are expecting twins in April. Frank & Marina

1/6/00
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I tried signing up as a member but it kept coming back with data entry error. Can you please help me. Thank You, Charlie

1/3/00
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS MEDIA GUIDE What happens when I am contacted by the news media? How do I respond? In many communities, news reporters routinely cover local government activities, including school board meetings. For example, if you address a school board meeting, you may find that a reporter is in the audience. This presents an excellent opportunity to share your concerns with the school board and with the news media, which ultimately means the public. There are at least two sides to every story. You can bet the folks on the other side of the issue will take advantage of an opportunity to tell their story to a reporter. You should too. How do I handle such a request? What do I say to a reporter? The best way to handle a request from a news reporter is to be open and direct. Most reporters do not cover one topic. They bounce around, often covering a myriad of subjects in any given week. But even if they are covering a particular issue, they may still be unaware of your concerns on the issue and perhaps even ill-informed about the issue's intricacies. You can help educate the reporter, while at the same time taking advantage of an opportunity to express your side of the story. Be clear and concise. Make sure you know what you want to say and how you will say it. Get to the bottom line quickly. Focus on one or two key points. Keep it simple. Do not get bogged down with too many details. Try to explain the essence of your position in a sentence or two. Reporters work under tight time and space limitations. They often must condense a complicated issue into a few sentences or paragraphs. Why not help them by being clear and concise? When you do, you increase your chances that the news coverage will be fair, balanced, and accurate. How can I guarantee that my position will not be misstated? If I do not talk to a reporter, then I cannot be misquoted, right? Isn't that the best thing to do? There are no guarantees concerning the outcome of a news story. Believe it or not, most reporters are not conspiring to slant a story one way or the other. Most are professionals who strive to tell both sides of a story with balance and fairness. But, of course, you cannot be sure what information will be used and what information will be withheld. You certainly cannot be sure how it will be presented. But there is one thing you can know with certainty: If you do not offer your point of view and remain silent, you will have no input in the story. You will not be misquoted, but what could even be more damaging, you will not be quoted either. To compete equally in the marketplace of ideas, you must deal with the news media. You need to get your ideas and concerns into the marketplace, and one of the best ways to do that is through the media. I do not want to be treated unfairly, though. How can I maximize the chances that my comments will be presented without bias? I just want to get a "fair shake." Again, the best approach is one of openness and clarity. Tell your story in a concise manner. There is nothing wrong with asking a reporter, "Do you understand what I am trying to say?" By asking that question, you give the reporter an opportunity to tell you how they perceive your position. Remember, communication is the key. You need to be direct, honest, and concise. Do not be afraid to repeat yourself. State your position. Re-state it. Re-state it again, if necessary. As I mentioned earlier, reporters often learn about a story as they are covering it. Help the education process along. Be ready, willing, and able to provide a reporter with any additional information (written or otherwise) to help clarify and reinforce your position. Do not overload a reporter with a ream of documents, but a well-placed supporting document or two never hurts. In most instances, you will have just one opportunity to make your point. Take advantage of it. All right, what happens if I participate and I am still misquoted? What do I do if the newspaper or TV news story is not accurate? The first thing you should do is stop and take a deep breath. If you feel the story was biased or unfair, you will likely be upset, angry, or worse. Calm down before you do anything. Before you take any action, ask yourself these questions: "Was the news story fair? Were both sides of the story presented and given equal treatment?" Re-read the story or play back the videotape before you answer. Notice I said both sides of the story. Sometimes we have a tendency to overreact and think a story is unfair because it includes criticism or opposition. Remember, a story is fair and balanced if it includes both sides of a story and treats both equally. A fair and balanced story should never be an advocacy piece for either side, including your own. If after considering all this, you still come to the conclusion the story was unfair, you should contact the reporter who did the story. Express your concerns in a calm fashion. No one likes to get a phone call from a screamer. Discuss the story and explain why you felt your position was misstated or treated unfairly. Use specifics. Remember, keep the lines of communication open. Do not threaten a reporter with a line like, "I will never talk to you again!" That may make you feel better, but it does not accomplish anything. Your goal should be to develop trusting relationships with reporters and editors. That is right, I said trusting. The newspaper, radio, or television station is going to remain part of your community, and unless you decide to move away, you will no doubt deal with the media again. It will be to your advantage to get to know a reporter or a news editor. You do not have to become best buddies, but you need to talk with them, even when they are not doing a story that concerns you developing a relationship with them, you will get to know them better, and more importantly, they will get to know you better. This builds trust. Trust helps keep the lines of communication open. And that is an important building block to fair and balanced news coverage. By the way, if you think a reporter has done a good job with a story, pick up the phone and tell them. They like to hear that also. If I have an interesting news story or would like some coverage about a specific event, what is the best way of going about contacting a reporter? The more comfortable you become dealing with the news media, the more likely you will want to initiate the contact. Remember, equal access to the marketplace of ideas means learning how to deal with the news media, and that should include being pro-active. Reporters are always looking for news stories, and news stories center around ideas, issues, events, and people. You can alert reporters to potential news items and thereby become a valuable resource. So do not be afraid to initiate the contact. This is where developing a relationship with a reporter is very beneficial. If you know someone at the newspaper, radio or TV station, pick up the phone and give them a call. Let them know what is on your mind. Ask them who you should talk to about your potential story. If you do not have a personal contact in the news department, try calling a news editor or an assignment editor. They are the decision-makers when it comes to covering a news story. Follow up the phone call with a letter or information that can be faxed to their attention. Remember, reporters have to work on tight schedules, so the faster they can get information, the better. Fax machines provide instant access. But do not abuse the opportunity. No news organization likes to be bombarded with a proliferation of lengthy news releases. Be selective of what you send, and keep it short. One final note: Respect deadlines. If you call a reporter or an editor and he cannot talk to you, do not be offended. Chances are he is trying to beat a deadline. Ask him when it would be convenient for you to call back. As a general rule, avoid contacting news rooms in the late afternoon or early evening. That is when most reporters and editors are under the gun (particularly in the television industry). Generally, the best time to call reporters is early morning, after they have had their first cup of coffee.

12/31/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS [ 2000 ] is here ======================================

12/31/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
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12/12/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I want to wish you all out there a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year, too you and too your family, and hope that you Father's out there after that "bitter divorce" will be with your child(ren) on these special Holidays. Have a Happy millennium celebretion with your children, and many more to come as well. Don't forget to also, (while you are here already in this web site) to also look at and read and ask a question to, in the "Dad to Dad" section !!. Have a nice "Family" first nigt out Millennium Celebration, and a drug free one AND a alcohol free one as well. Be safe by being smart.

12/12/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I want to wish you all out there a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year, too you and too your family, and hope that you Father's out there after that "bitter divorce" will be with your child(ren) on these special Holidays. Have a Happy millennium celebretion with your children, and many more to come as well. Don't forget to also, (while you are here already in this web site) to also look at and read and ask a question to, in the "Dad to Dad" section !!. Have a nice "Family" first nigt out Millennium Celebration, and a drug free one AND a alcohol free one as well. Be safe by being smart.

11/26/99
baker360@cs.com
Desparately need help. Ex-wife taking everything

11/16/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TOO "ALL" THE FATHER'S OUT THERE & TOO THEIR CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD & IN AMERICA. MAY THE BLESSINGS OF HEAVEN POUR DOWN UPON YOU & YOUR FAMILY & YOUR CHILDREN, AND THAT YOU BE WITH THEM ON THIS DAY !!!. GOD BLESS YOU ALL, AND, GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!. =H=A=P=P=Y= =T=H=A=N=K=S=G=I=V=I=N=G= GUYS !!!.

11/13/99
jasonjorgenson@hotmail.com
Family law is a joke and they are very biased.

11/12/99
jamie_bug69@yahoo.com
I think this page is great. I only get to see my Dad during the summer and every other x-mas. I miss him all the time. I feel bad for Father's that only get to see their kids every so often. My Dad is my mentor and my hero. I couldn't live one day without him. I love you Dad.

11/3/99
Leoj1@prodigy.net
Please add me to you mailing list. I have joint legal custody of my 5 year old daughter,and have her 4 months out of the year. but next year when my daughter starts school my visitation rights were lowered to 2 months and 3 weeks out of one whole year. can i have this changed? I dont see how this can be in my little girls best interest!

10/19/99
aldwyer@dmv.com
This is a great site.Thanx and I look forward to chatting with you all

10/13/99
jake@newsolutions.com
This is a great site!

10/10/99
ibbeaver@juno.com
I am 28 and married with three children one of which came from an earlier relationship(of mine)and im very thankful theres somewhere turn

10/7/99
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9/2/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I will openly respond, to what I just read here, from a "grandmother" with the addie of MyGaboo@aol.com. First off we "ALL" condone incest of any kind. However, I think here you are just permoting your web site, to make money from sponsors, ie; CASA and other radical feminist groups and children's rights groups as well. Just to build "MORE" women's shelters out there, and leavethe "MAN" on the streets in a flood of homelessness, with restraining orders to remove him from the home, "HIS HOME", and break apart the family unit as a whole. I love all women as well as all children, and I'm a true Christian as well, however, as an advocacy leader in the field for over 25 yesrs, it is statements like that, that negates the truth to the facts. MORE MOTHERS abuse their children then the father does, the step fathers abuse children more then the father does, the mother's lesbian girl friends abuse the children more then the father does, the mothr's boyfriends abuse the children more then the father does, father's love their children to much to abuse them. I'm not saying that a very small hand full of cases out there were only done by father's, because it was, just a small hand full. I also believe in sole father custody and to get rid of no-fault divorce and to get back to fault divorce. As an father's rights advocacy leader for over 22 years in the field, I will still fight against "TRUTH DECAY", liberalism, socialist utopians, homosexuals and lesbians, radical feminism, drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling, and "ALL" the spin off that comes from these as well. It is a proven fact as well that a father can raise his children better then the mother can or ever will, I'm also for keeping the family unit as a whole. However, if that does not happen, then, through "FAULT DIVORCE" let the Judge determin the out come of the case, and give sole custody to the father as well, not some "special interest group" and their socialist utopians" false ideas and lies.

9/2/99
mygaboo@aol.com
I am a grandmother who believes in God, but what I see from Father's rights groups, that use pro pedophile psychologist to give men who molest custody is against God and all He says is right and I believe good fathers are getting hurt in court as well as good mothers, to cause anger, so the children are unprotected, by the use of the pro pedophile fathers groups, claiming to be Christians, because the God I love does not condone incest. Look at the pictures in my web site, by grandchild drew these of her father, she never spent a night with him, she lived with her mother, how in God's name can anyone justify giving the molester custody, I hope all those who use Parental alienation agains molested children will stand before God and have a good reason? Jesus loves children, it is our job to protect them, what if Joseph got "custody" of Christ? OR Moses mother didnt' disobey the law and kill him as the law instructed? http://members.aol.com/mygaboo/page2/index.htm all children need a father, not a child molester, be careful who it is you support. Look for the evil and overcome it, Jesus gave us that power, if we have the faith to use it. Don't help molesters get custody for profit, as some charatiable orgs do. Wake up, this is an evil time and you need to find the good.

8/26/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Somtimes I have to laugh, and, sometimes I have to cry at some of the stories told in here. Starting way back in 1950, under the social security act, (federal), the "child support" syatem was started, and in 1969 in the State of Calf. was started "no-fault divorce", and by 1970, every state in America had some form of it in their state. From 1950 - 1999, was created 2 "garbage generations" by these "socialist utopians" (aka) "LIBERALS", through a so called system that can't work, never did, never will. Now here in the 90's, we get these "feminists" signing guest books and telling us "how bad they want the child's dad to be with his kid, and "HE" don't want to"!. "BULL". That "FATHER" should of had full costody of "HIS CHILD" awarded to him at the time of the divorce, and, that mother should of had too pay & pay & pay & pay & pay under the same system that they wanted, in a feels good sounds good "LIE" known as for the best interest of a minor child, but the swecond part to that is something the LIBERALS always leave out, "another garbage generation" to keep their dream alive. For another 25 years. Not the way "Things Ought To Be" in the first place. As they always were and had been. Better brush up here on "truth decay", and not all the "huggies and giggles" lies these radical feminists, and so called "children's rights groups" are feeding you. For without the father being at the head of his family unit as a whole all the time, even after a divorce, with full custody of his child(ren), the family unit as a whole, will never be that, because a mother does not know how to be a father and a mother to. But a father does.

8/24/99
xavier@gis.net
I just learned about your orginization on tv. i am a single mother of 2 daughters, ages 6 and 11, who is trying desperatly to get my girls father to spend more time with his daughters, and the information you provided, promted me to search for a web site and i'm glad i did. you have a wealth of information that i wouldlike to share with my childrens father, mainly to 'wake him up' as to the importance of his present and involvement with his childrens life. I was especially interested in your segment of girls without fathers. thankyou and i will somehow share all this with my "x". I'll give him the ball now he must run with it,into his daughters lives.

7/20/99
planetaryg@yahoo.com
It seems to me that somebody needs to decide that issues of custody need to be removed from the hands of lawyers and judges altogether. I would be interested to submit ideas for change to the process if antone should care to get them. Also on this matter where the State Attorney General intrudes into the life of the child and its parents in the "sanctimonious" name of collecting child support (money) a real look needs to be taken. Devastation of the relationships involved and hence of the family involved is done or made worse by the manner of the AG intrusion. Ask me for my assessment of the interference done by our government servants. I am new to the internet but have longed to get my thoughts out to the audience that would advocate for truth and justice where everyone is concerned in a household that is divided. I have also composed a written testimonial on the experiences my daughter and I suffered in the hands of all the players that involve themselves with the custody process as it is today and believe me I had dealings with them all. The so-cxalled advocacy groups are among the worst in terms of thinking with a level head.

7/13/99
squirel@sprint.ca
Great idea, congratulations on helping others and promoting good in society, there are plenty of opposite examples everywhere!

7/4/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
HAPPY 4TH. OF JULY TO "ALL" THE FATHER'S OUT THERE IN 1999. MAY "YOU" GET TO SEE YOUR CHILDREN SOON AS WELL.

6/24/99
triggerpjba@hotmail.com
I believe that this site is a wonderful forum for fathers and fathers-to-be to express their concerns and/or problems. I applaud some of the fathers here who voice their concerns.

6/20/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
"HAPPY FATHERS DAY", remember father's always, if it were not for father's you would not be here to read this. You would be just like all the rest of the feminist movement out there, a radical lesbian. Fathers rule and should not come last, they must stay the head of the household and in full charge of their children at all times, even after a divorce. Fathers can raise their children just as good, if not even better, then the mother can. Remember to also talk & write to your state policy makers, demand to them that "YOUR" state gets back to 'fault divorce'. Even email them if you have their email address and do the same. "HAPPY FATHERS DAY"!.

6/17/99
happydad@hotmail.com
Great website!!

6/5/99
ACARR24947
tHIS WOULD BE A GREAT SITE IF AFTER YOU BECOME MEMBER IT WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW U TO SIGN IN TO THE CHAT ROOM

5/1/99
Vince_Ryan@es.adp.com
Happy to be a new member. Have to wonderful children 3 and 7. I love them very much and want to do the right things for them and with them. I look forward to the many years together with them and their mother. Fatherhood is great!

4/25/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
HEY, HAVE YOU HUGGED YOUR KID TODAY, BETTER YET, HAS YOUR KID HUGGED "YOU", EVEN MORE SO, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR KID'S ARE, OTHER THEN ON PAPER, (ie; a Court Order saying you have to pay child support), DON'T YOU THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME "YOU" DID ?!. "BIOLOGICAL FATHERS" HAVE RIGHTS TO YOU KNOW, IT'S THE KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE RIGHTS, ONLY TO BE WITH THEIR DAD TILL THE AGE OF MAJORITY. THE MOVEMENT OUT THERE IS CALLED: "THE FATHERS RIGHTS MOVEMENT" and not "the childrens right's movement", DID YOU KNOW THAT?!. NOW YOU DO!. REMEMBER IT THAT WAY THEN !. YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE BETTER OFF, IF IT STAYS THAT WAS AS WELL. PLUS KEEP IN MIND, " IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, THEN, YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING"!. AFTER SCROLLING DOWN HERE, CHECK OUT THE DAD TO DAD SECTION, FOR TRUE QUESTIONS & ANSWERS AS WELL, THEY ARE THERE!. HAVE A NICE DAY, I KNOW, I WILL. (*_*). BYE!.

4/23/99
glvy77a@prodigy.com
Hi, Thanks for the web-site. I would like to invite those dads that haven't yet heard about the Father-Daughter Valentine Dance movement that is sweeping the country to visit the following web-site. http://www.sequoiainternet.com/dance/ Thank you again for hosting this invitation. Jim Massery

4/6/99
cnt93@aol.com
please send me information

3/15/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I hear this crap all the time, " I written to the jdge, and never got back a answer yet, what should i do?." THAT JUDGE UNDER LAW CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTION IN YOUR CASE "WITHOUT" BOTH PARTIES BEING PRESENT AT THE SAME TIME IN THAT JUDGES CHAMBERS, THE COURT ROOM OR ON A 3-WAY SPEAKER PHONE - PHONE CALL. If you are going to send anything to that Judge, make it a petition and a notice of hearing to change something in the org. divorce decree, in your favor for a change. DON'T WRITE LOVE LETTERS TO THE JUDGE, that won't help you and you'll never get back a answer or a truthful answer either. Don't even write to that county clerks office either, you'll even get less of a answer. Going there in person, or/and, via a 3-way speaker phone call will be much better. Now go check the DAD TO DAD section here, and see what I'm talking about, it's there. Thank you !. :-)

3/14/99
kbrown2412@aol.com
i have really enjoyed viewing this website. i have been searching forever for some support and knowledgble answers to some difficult questions. i will come back and check this website daily. thanks again and "you go guys".

2/16/99
shannond@wsu.edu
I am looking for two webistes and would appreciate being pointed in the right direction: 1. National Center for Fathers and Families 2. Family & Child Wellbeing Research Network If anyone can help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Donald Shannon, (MA "Early Infant Care") Washington State University.

2/12/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@wbtv.net
I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE A "REAL" DEDICATED SECTION IN THIS WEB SITE HERE FOR DIVORCED FATHERS< that need advice in time of need > THAT ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR HEAD ABOVE THE WATER IN THIS "DIVORCE RACKET" CALLED "NO-FAULT DIVORCE". THANK YOU !. :-)

2/11/99
PeterDUva@aol.com
I think you should have a dedicated section for divorced fathers. Thank you.

2/5/99
webmaster@newsolutions.com
Welcome all to FOL! please use all of our applications to create knowledge sharing and a sense of community!! keep in touch and tell us how to make this your favorite site on the net!

1/16/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Hey guys, be sure to scroll down this guest book & read all, then, click onto the DAD TO DAD section & read all question's and answers to, scroll down it to, you might learn something to!. It's always nice, to, to see new faces here. Stop by often to!. Have a nice day. You owe it to yourself!. :-)

1/15/99
dsndas
This is marvolous! From a mom

1/14/99
dmac@dmac.mv.com
Great site we need more of them. I am currently in the process of custody wrangling in NH., and losing badly, after 4 yrs. of joint physical&legal custody, I've lost my children, and my support has doubled, which I'm unable to pay. I suppose incarceration is next!!! I'd love to hear from someone with similar experience, and won. Regards, Don Macduff

1/13/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Don't you feel that it is about time out there in tis divorce racket, called no-fault divorce, to put the shoe on the other foot, like 'sole father custody', and, 'turning the ex-wife into a egg donor & a walking purse'?. I do. :-)

1/11/99
perenfant@vif.com
Good work ! Very good site . Congradulation . Claude Lachaine for Maison Pere Enfant du Quebec

1/10/99
farhad@malinet.ml
I found out about this site from a magazine called wwwiz.com. We are stationed in Mali, in West Africa. There aren't any societies or agencies that can give advice there. I hope to find guideance here

1/5/99
Omeon@webtv.net
Trying to obtain help, but there is something in error, won't take message.

1/1/99
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
{{{{{{ "HAPPY 1999 GUYS" }}}}}

12/28/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
I'm going to post this,it's your 'get out of jail free card', use it wisely. If you become indigent, or insolvent, ie; you lost your job, got laid off, got fired, became sick, got injured, are in jail or/and prison, etc. etc etc, it's UP TO YOU ( through a lawyer <> pro bono, or yourself <> pro se), to ask for a Hearing, & file a petition to, to that Court, where it is the proper venue & who has the jurisdiction as well, in that county & city, and ask for in your petition, to 'temp' freeze your prior obligation's, "ALL OF THEM", as ordered, so that arrearages won't build on you & in your case. The court will have to do it. Only if you ask!. And do it this way. It works in all 'Title IV-D' ( AFDC ) cases, and other ones as well. This buys you time. And, keeps you from going to jail. It's legal to!. Take charge of your life & your case to. With this in mind, have a Happy New Year!. :-)

12/28/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
It seems like, our impeached President <> Bill Clinton, <> in mid 1998, through the help of "ACES", ( a radical feminist group), got a bill, signed into law, whereas, ( IF ) you, the non-ccustodial father, owe $10,000 or more in back support, leave the County who has jurisdiction over the case, or leave te State, to avod paying your Ordered obligation's, yo will get (2) TWO YEARS in a Federal prison. Perhaps it's time NOW guy's, to push the U.S. Senate for TOTAL REMOVEAL of Clinton from Office, after he was impeached. At the same time, take "ACES" private tool away from them, like this "FATHER" & "DAD" hater, Bill Clinton!. With this in mind, have a Happy New Year guy's!. :-)

12/24/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Was the night before Christmas, as you walk around your house, your kid's are not with you, and you feel like a louse, you want them there so bad you start to cry, and in the meantime your ex just wanta you to die, you walk into your room & what do you find, an old court order laying there, now ani't that kind, you pick it up & read it and what do you see, it gives you visitation this day, now you say gee, you bring it with you as you go out the door, off to your ex's to show her no more, you get to the house then knock on the door, your kids come to greet you more hugs they want more, get your thing's kids & jump in the car, while mommie looks at you from a door that's ajar, I have this paper and here's what it reads, it's my day to visit and your day to grieve, jump inthe car kids you won't be left alone, Santa's on his way over to mine and your home, we'll stop on the way to get a bite, Merry Christmas to all <> and to all a good night!. :-)

12/24/98
mmoore6@entergy.com
I've heard about your organization through various media - talk radio, news stories, magazine articles, etc., but this is my first time visiting your site. I'm grateful that it exists. I like learning about things from a male perspective as well as my own!! Melissa Moore, New Orleans, LA

12/23/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
SOMETIMES I WONDER IF ALL; Judges, lawyers, liberals, unelected bureaucrats, socialist utopians, { where it takes a village to raise your child(ren) }, radical feminists, policy makers, the media {who do bad things just for ratings }, the press, and the news, ALL HAVE THE BRAINS OF A "CHIA PET", when it comes down to a two (2) parent family. In this world!. It always seems that these "chia pets" for brains, questionable-humanoids, just don't care to know what a "FATHER" is or/and means to that family unit as a whole. Perhaps it's time we told them <> at the polls to <> the voting polls that is. Until election time <> tell them to their face's <> at open public hearings <> plus <> write into these hearings as well, also write to these policy makers <> give them phone calls at their office to. Let them all know <> "we are mad as hell, and, we are not going to take it anymore". Perhaps then, they'll wake yes-wake-up & smell their coffee, for a change. For the better. For your child(ren) to have a real father in their life. Being you!.And not a step dad, etc in their life at all. You owe it to, not only yourself here, but also to your kids, to see that this gets done to. The rest is up to you. It's your call <> it's your action. Remember to, "FATHERS RULE"!. No matter what those 'chia pets' for brains say or do. Dads Rule.

12/15/98
2savelbo@tjelvar.net
Keep up the good work. I�m reading Robert Bly about man-initiatiaona and I feel very reinforced, read him! All the best for Christmas and the New Year. Lars-Birger

12/11/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
FIRST OFF <> I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF <> WITH <> WISHING YOU ALL A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR. MAN MORE TO COME TO <> FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN. ( MANY MORE TO COME). AND LADIES, WOMEN, GIRLS, SINGLE MOMS, OUT THERE <> DON'T EVER BREAK OFF CONTACT BETWEEN THE FATHER & HIS CHILDREN, IN ANY FORM OR WAY, AT ANY TIME. IF YOU DO, IT GOES TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE AN UNFIT MOTHER <> AND YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE CUSTODY <> TILL YOU RE-THINK YOUR THINKING. IT ONLY HURTS THE CHILDREN <> THAT YOU SAY YOU LOVE. PLUS, IT PROVES TO "THEM" (and the whole world to) THAT YOU DON'T <> AND, ARE JUST TWO-FACED AS WELL. AND, LIVING A LIE. <> OPEN YOUR TIGHTENED HEART RIGHT NOW, AND, LET THE FATHER SEE HIS CHILDREN, IN THIS AND EVERY TIME OF YEAR, SEASON, TO BE WITH HIS CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT THAT DAD DID BEFORE TO YOU IN THE PAST, IT'S NOT YOU THAT IS THE ISSUE HERE, IT'S HIS CHILDREN THAT IS!. FOR THEIR "BEST INTERESTS". TO HAVE A DAD IN THEIR LIFE, "THEIR REAL DAD TO!." AT ALL TIMES TO. AS FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE IN; "PSALMS, 127." <> GOD SAID IT, NOT ME. READ IT NOW TO. AND STOP READING, "ISAIAH, 3:12", THAT IS ABOUT THE "TODAY" RADICAL FEMINIST MOVEMENT AND THE SPIN-OFF FROM IT, IN A FATHERLESS AMERICA. THAT THE W-OMEN HAS CREATED, TO HURT THE CHILDREN & TO GET "EVEN" WITH THE FATHER, AT THE COST OF HIS CHILDREN!. ON EARTH. HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NER YEAR, TO YOU ALL. Amen. <>>>>>>>>< :-)

12/11/98
colleen@halecom.com
Your web site is very inforamative. As a single mother it has given me the other side of the coin perspective. Reading your articles confirmed I did the right thing by not giving into my son's fathers wishes to "check out my options" (abortion). My son is now 3 and asks about his "daddy" all the time. It breaks my heart!!! The best response has been, mommy is here and will always be here for you. God Bless your work and continue to educate the male population. Thank you! Colleen in California

12/11/98
ROBINPAXTON@CUBIX.COM
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THANKS FOR BEING THERE FOR US

12/11/98
robwit@erols.com
Wade, I just discovered Fathers Online. Is that part of NFI or a separate operation? Suggest that greater geographic focus needed to help those living in the same areas to build their contacts. Also, a state specific section where legislative, legal and other domestic relations developments can be viewed. Keep up the good work. All the best for Christmas and New Year. Rob W.

12/10/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
when are you all out there going to wake up & smell the coffee ?. Ask yourself this question; in the Holy Bible in, Psalms 127,it talks about wives-mothers, husbands-fathers, will be held accountable before God, for the discharge of these obligations, (your children). Then ask yourself, (on earth here),how can that one parent be this 'responsible' here on earth, through social engineering anti-male bias by socialist utopians 'lesbian groups' ( like the N.O.W. gang), the AFLCIO, the ACLU, the teachers union, unelected bureaucrats, lawyers, liberal's, (both on a State level & on a Federal level to), law makers, and some Jdges to, (Judges), are against a two parent family as a whole & believe it does take a village to raise your child(ren), and keep the money flowing in teir own pockets in this "divorce racket" called no-fault divorce. Don't yo think it's about time YOUR STATE got back to "FAULT DIVORCE", and did awy with no-fault divorce 100%. At the same time push for school vouchers in your state, get them, use them, take your kd's out of public school & with them put them in a private school & get those 'socialist utopians' out of your kid's lives for good. (in schools). Push for joint legal physical custody laws in your State, (pay child support this way), give it to your kids this way while under YOUR ROOF, not through the State. Push for sole (male) custody laws, in yor State, as much as the women have them in place already, and stop all the anti-male bias with these laws. It's up to YOU to take back your kids, that was taken from you in the first place. Why, because you will be held accountable before God, through his son, Jesus Christ, at the gates into Heaven, for the discharge of these obligatins, the devil knows this to & is working overtime, to not bust up his divorce racket. That he started to. Through the weak ones on earth. You must stay strong, don't cave to those ills, and you will win, in both ways to. GOOD ALWAYS OVER-RIDE EVIL, AND, YOU & YOUR CHILDREN ARE GOOD !. Remember this to.

12/8/98
merle_patsy@hotmail.com
i am glad to see your website. it gives me hope that i may someday find a way to see my son. thanks

12/6/98
pamsbraves@hotmail.com
I would like to know more about your organization. My older brother is in a terrible marriage. Neither my sister-in-law, nor my brother should have been parents. Besides having NO common sense (I am not exaggerating), they are clueless as to the responsibility parenting bears, the time and energy it demands, and the basic necessities required. All of this despite the fact that they have 4 children between ages 3 and 6. The story, of course, goes deeper and further, but I am hoping to find SOME way of knocking some sense into my brother, and to help him to become a better father/parent to his children.

12/1/98
webmaster@wantedposters.com
I am webmaster at www.wantedposters.com and being a Father, Stepfather ,etc. I hurts hards when I see some of the things that happen to kids who have fathers who do not care. Guys all over the country are getting bad deals when it comes to access and custody because of the few lousy scumbags. So I post them .

11/21/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
SCHOOL VOUCHERS - IN YOUR STATE - DOES "WORK" - ASK YOUR STATE LAWMAKERS RIGHT NOW TO WRITE A BILL FOR THEM - THEN SUPPORT THAT BILL - WHAT THESE DO IS HELP "YOU" TO TAKE YOUR CHILDREN "OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL" & PUT THEM IN A "PRIVATE SCHOOL"!. PLUS, IT BREAKS UP THE TEACHERS UNION, AND GETS BETTER TEACHERS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN - WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE - "TO LEARN A EDUCATION". ALSO REMEMBER - IT DON'T TAKE A VILLAGE TO RAISE "YOUR" CHILD - ALL IT TAKES IS A "FATHER"!. AND IF THAT FATHER WANTS HIS CHILDREN TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION - IN LIFE - THEN MAKE SURE "SCHOOL VOUCHERS" GET IN "YOUR STATE" - AND SPREAD ACCROSS THE NATION AS FAST AS NO-FAULT DIVORCE DID IN 1969-1970. ( within one year, every State in the Nation had some form of it.) IT'S TIME TO ALSO GET BACK TO "FAULT DIVORCE" IN AMERICA. WHILE YOU "ARE TALKING" TOO YOUR STATE "POLICY MAKERS" DON'T FORGET TO BRING THIS UP TO!. YOU OWE IT TO "YOURSELF" & YOU OWE IT TO YOUR CHILDREN - NOW, SEE TO IT, THAT IT GETS DONE - YOUR VOICE COUNTS TO IN CONGRESS & ON A STATE LEVEL TO!. LET IT BE HEARD "TODAY"!. FOR A BETTER TOMORROW - FOR YOU & FOR YOUR CHILDREN!. THANK YOU - AND - "GOD BLESS"!.

11/13/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
America's Lost Fathers, that is; dads that got their child(ren) taken from "THEM" and given over to the mom, at a court hearing - called divorce, should unite in mass, and, push your policy makers to write a bill, in Congress & on a State level as well, for father's to get "sole custody" of "THEIR" child(ren) as much as those "W-Omen" do in court - over 70% of the time, and make it "EQUAL" in court for men. ie; father's. The mild-measure after that would be, "Joint Legal Custody", and keep the Government out of family life 100%. Nothing less "GUTS" guys then these. What YOU don't need is "femicrap" - books, (other then the Holy Bible), to teach you how to be a better-dad, PLUS,you need YOUR CHILD(ren), with YOU, and out of the hands of the Court's & the Government's pockets. (after reading this here, click onto the "DAD TO DAD" part, on the left, and read the Q & A's there.) CHILDREN NEED A DAD IN THEIR LIFE, "AND NOT A VILLAGE TO RAISE THEM", as the femigogs & their gender separatist butchocracy pushes for, every year, in Congress 1st, then on State level's 2nd. It's time to "GET BUST", and get busy, with your policy makers. Not kick-back & read books & watch videos & listen to audio tapes. It's time to free your children fronthe hands od (of) from the hands of unelected bureaucrats & femicrap. It's time to move into action, and show them all, who has the balls in your family. And get those laws in the books, that have real teeth in them "FOR YOU & YOUR CHILD(ren)" in that (now) gender biased Court system all over America!. Turn it around in your favor for a true change, in America, & get out & vote to guy's. Vote those "Liberals" right out of Office, "YOUR OFFICE", not theirs!. Remember this to!. It's "WE THE PEOPLE", not we te liberals & femicrap. Take back YOUR GOVERNMENT & YOUR CHILDREN TODAY!. Get back to "fault divorce in America." Do away with no-fault divorce 100% to!. Do away with the Teachers Union, in schoold 100% & in the schools incert YOUR RIGHTS to be a parent to towrd your child(ren) and not be left-out from anything going on in there with your kid's, after a divorce or/and a break-up. ON A STATE LEVEL, push your "policy makers" to write a bill, to allow "school vouchers" in that State, this will allow YOU to take your child(ren) out of public school & place tem in a private school, where they'll learn a good education. And, have/get one to!. Thanks for reading this, it's better then anything else in here to!. It also gave "YOU" good advice to!. Right ?!.

11/8/98
J_Curtis2@compuserve.com
I would love to tell you more about a new book I have just had published about the family - it certainly underlines the importance of the father in caring for children. Like to know more? Jill

11/7/98
oiytrre@msn.com
America's Lost Children Here is a site I hope you find interesting. Please help. Roger Smith http://members.tripod.com/kidscorner/

11/7/98
aut0@teleport.com
I am 38 and have yet to have any children. It saddens me to see all the problems children go through. I think your web sight is going to help fathers know what it is to be a father. I was adopted and my adoptive family fell appart, my real father and his family fell appart, whence all of my attempts to make my history different than it is have failed, so I come here. I think to find out what it takes to be a success, and hopefuly find a way to change my future, and forget my past.

11/4/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
ALL YOU NON-CUSTODIAL FATHERS, THAT LIVE IN THE FLORIDA AREA,WILL NOT SEE "TRUE CHANGE", from the liberal's, however "YOU WILL" see it through their "NEW Gov.", he is the son of President George Bush, his name is "Jeb Bush". He is a GREAT REPUBLICAN TO!. He's for YOUR RIGHTS to be with your child(ren), after a break-up or/and a divorce. YOU'LL NOW HAVE THAT CHANGE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEKING, WITH THIS "MAN" IN OFFICE !. Count on that to guy's !.

10/31/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
"A HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO YOU ALL OUT THERE!>" by the way guys, do YOU know where your child(ren) are right now ?. They should be with you!. Not in the hands of a court system, and you putting up with their "tricks & treating" you!. In "Title IV-D" cases!. GUNG-HO-CHUCK!.

10/28/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
Did you hear those "LIBERALS" again, ARE running a dirty campaign this year ?. Hireing a dozen or mor children to run up to their opponent's, while on TV on the news, yelling "DADDY! DADDY!". Plus, planting their opponent's DNA on Richard Simmon's shorts. You just can't trust those liberal's at all. Vote them all out of Office!. Vote Republican all the way!. Thank you, and, "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!. Chuck.

10/21/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
PERHAPS IT'S TIME to get started; and, start moving from "RHETORIC" to action!. Your 'National & State policy makers', (lawmakers), needs to hear YOUR STORY & GRIPES, so that laws with real teeth in them can be drafted, and passed into law, so that Judge's have tools to work with in Court. Without this, you'll always have the title of sperm-donor & walking wallet, plus visitor. After a divorce or/and a break-up!. Well, what are you waiting for ?. Get busy today!. Thanks !. GUNG-HO-CHUCK!.

10/19/98
tprost@imag.net
Very much looking forward to visiting often to look for information, and insight into, being a new dad.

10/17/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
CHILDREN don't have right's, except; to "BE WITH" their biological father & mother. KEEP THE GOVERNMENT, ie; liberals, unelected bureaucrats, socialist utopians, ie; childrens rights groups & women's rigts groups, (WHERE it takes a village to raise a child - without a father in that child's life), and, all the other "spin off groups" out there, out of the life of a "FAMILY UNIT AS A WHOLE"!. Plus, do away with no-fault-divorce & get bach (BACK TOO) "FAULT DIVORCE" in America!. ONLY THEN, will there be true change. And guys & gal's, get out & vote, "VOTE REPUBLICAN" at the polls. They have "INTEGRITY", liberal's don't. Always think family to!. Thank you!. GUNG-HO-CHUCK!.

10/16/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
On your Father's On Line link, "DAD TO DAD" (click on & look-see), it's great that father's can ASK QUESTIONS also GET THE ANSWERS they may be seeking at the same time, plus view them to!. Keep up the "GREAT WORK" Wade!. Sincerely, Chuck!.

10/16/98
GUNG-HO-CHUCK@webtv.net
<> "GREAT WEB SITE" <> Wade F. Horn, Ph. D. does a great job!. He'll to be another great 'pioneer', as he now walks in my footsteps!. (IN THE SAND). God Bless "YOU" Wade!. Chuck.

10/12/98
jcharette@srs.state.vt.us
Hi. Single woman parent. Would like to know more about your group. Thanks. Jen Charette

10/8/98
dawn_sayles@hotmail.com
I am looking for the male prespective on dead beat dad's issues.I have heard plenty from the womens side, but you never hear from the men.

10/8/98
buckleyj@tiac.net
i m currently working as a volunteer for the mass. society for the prevention of cruelty to children. one of our projects is a workshop for fathers. si far it is well received but we need help in getting the word out.

9/30/98
ALBruce@AOL.com
This is a great site. I love it.

9/10/98
Roger.F.Gay@telia.se
The Child Support Guideline Problem: http://adrr.com/law1/csp11.htm

9/7/98
NanaTMC@aol.com
I have been pleased with all of the information that NFI has provided and I would love to see a local chapter in my area. Atlantic County officials tell me that I must demonstrate a need before they can do anything. If anyone is in the Cape/Atlantic area of SOuth Jersey and is interested in sharing info, please e-mail. Thanks. NanaT

9/7/98
erobbins@itlnet.net
While I admire your efforts and direction, to me this just seems to be a lot of feel good rhetoric. Lets work through the legal and political system to change laws and identify and remove from office biased judges.

8/20/98
mumof2boys@sprintmail.com
I'm glad I found your site. I'm working on adding a page for dads onto my web site. I hope you don't mind if I add a link to your site. I don't have the dads page up yet but hope to soon. you can visit my site at http://welcome.to/melissasfamilyhomepage

8/7/98
TREEIVERY@prodigy.net
I am an outreach worker with the Texas Attorney General's office. Often young fathers inquire about resources which can help them navigate the maze of new issues concerning fatherhood and legal responsibilties. I feel certain that this site can help them understand their role and solidifies my role as a father and mentor.

7/28/98
jimbrannen@ibm.net
As a pastor, I am glad to find this resource.

7/21/98
ZAURIC@MSN.com
I think this a great web page.How can I find out about other groups like this in my home town?

7/17/98
samsaw@webtv.net
Just wanting to say thank you to whomever created this site. It really is fantastic! I could have used this resource about 20 years ago, and I certainly intend to participate now and in the future. In all my life becoming a father is by far the greatest single event. It's graeat to help and to be helped.

7/3/98
seeya@javanet.coom
Hi I just signed up. Do you have a chat schedule?

6/19/98
equinox@argohouston.com
INTELECTUAL & NICE

6/9/98
globe-link@globe-link.com
I would like to say that this is an inspiration to have a web site of this kind because it unites Fathers from all over the world to one of the best causes in humanity the raising of our futher. Ralph Green

5/29/98
ambassadors@usa.net
Shalom Jerusalem, Abba Father be glorified in the Son... GodSpeed Journey!

5/23/98
martin.purchase@connect-2.co.uk
I have just found this web site. I think it's great !!!!

5/19/98
aquean@hotmail.com
I think this site is terrific. But, you must realize, there are good fathers out there who are also pagan.

5/6/98
PM9566AOL.COM/
AS AN UNMARRIED AND NEW FATHER OF A HANDSOME,HEALTHY NEWBORN BOY 4/21/98 I FOUND YOUR SITE TO BE VERY INTERESTING AND EXCITING PLACE.IS IT FOR ALL DADS OR JUST MARRIED ONES?

4/25/98
mjhurley@aol.com
My husband spends as much time or more with our daughter as I do. He is wonderful and everything a father should be. I hear a lot of women complaining about their husbands' non-involvement in their children. I can't understand it. Our daughter is our miracle and she is treated as such at all times by both of us.I really believe fathers are an integral part of child-rearing. Keep up your very important work.

4/25/98
Debbie1@digitalexp.com
This is great. I wish my ex husband would spend some time reading and reviewing this site. It is great to know that there are some read dads out there that care about their kids,.

4/21/98
plufrano@graphicsdepot.net
Well, being the mother of a 5 year old son who is basically fatherless - his biological dad hasn't seen him in 4 years , nor calls him nor pays support.... it is decent to see that there are some dads who want to be a father. To hear this little boy make up stories about his daddy just about is too much to take at times. He wants to see him & wonders why his daddy never visits (365 day a year visitation with 72 hr notice). Oh yes - he is out of state....but driving was never a problem when we dated..... NEVER NEVER think your kid has forgotten you because he is not around - that kid will love you regardless of how negligent you are or if you are unable to see him. Just write a note, give a call, send a photo for the kid to cling onto & treasure.

4/20/98
scyp@altavista.net
Lets NFI bring the world with love n peace

4/19/98
GarryBe@AOL.com
I love the site so far....I am anxcious to see if it works in my situation!

4/17/98
mysterium98@yahoo.com
I am a father and I too am separated from my son's mother. I am glad to see that there is an organization that backs up the importance of a father and/or father figure in a young child upbringing. Even though I have gone through a separation with the m mother of my son, it in no way means I also separated from the upbringing of my son. Keep up the good work. Sincerely, Art Sevilla Los Angeles, Ca.

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